HOWEDY doug, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Whoever your "we" may be, certainly it’s not the persons who come here looking for help with their dogs. Most of the times, they do desperately need a method that would enable them to cope with their dog, and what they usually get from the regulars is a lecture about what lousy dog owners they are; and, of course, the recommendation to killfile the information that would perhaps allow them to deal with the problem themselves  in a fast, easy and safe way, without causing any harm to their dog. Lucy Lucy,     I understand where you are coming from.

alison is a lying dog abusing congenital IDIOT. I was friendly with Jerry myself once.

THAT was pryor to alison admitting she’s a DOG ABUSER.  You’re saying his method is fast ,

Sez ALL The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students all over the WHOWEL WILD WORLD <{) ; ~ ) HOWER DOG LOVERS CALL THEM LIARS and their posts FORGERIES <{) ; ~ )  easy and safe

INDEEDY. The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students DON’T BRIBE CHOKE CRATE SHOCK or MURDER their dogs <{) ; ~ ) but do you think you’re qualified to judge?

You mean, being a 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Student who REPORTED HER OWN 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS using her own FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual <{) ; ~ ) Why not pop along to this postive training and behaviour forum and find out why actions like throwing cans of pennies around can often do more harm than good.   http://www.takingthelead.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl

Oh. THAT’S on accHOWENT of we don’t "throw cans of pennies arHOWEND," dog lovers. The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method CURES ALL temperament and behavior problems NEARLY INSTANTLY <{) ; ~ ) Thanks for the url,

The url is that of gill mitner white, a notoriHOWES lying dog abusing punk thug coward <{) ; ~ ) for some reason I haven’t run across that forum.

On accHOWENT of it’s not a PUBIC forum so folks can’t SEE what’s goin on unless they join the membership. You’ll SEE that gill got NO METHOD to TRAIN dogs, she ONLY SELLS LESSONS. You’ll see NO CASE HISTORIES of SUCCESS for ANY temperament or behaivor problem, only EXXXCUSES for not bein able to train ALL behaivors NEARLY INSTANTLY withHOWET HURTING and MURDERIN dogs to do it.  I like the fact that you have to agree to this statement: "It deals with them in a positive manner using positive methods.

Well that’s the big lie, dufus. gill mitner white is a DOG ABUSER and FRAUD. LOOK AT HER OWN POSTED CASE HISTORIES of DISMAL FAILURE and requests to "CALL ME for FURTHER ADVICE" and a warning to "BE PATIENT, dog behavior problems can’t be CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY <{) ; ~ )  It does not advocate, agree with or suggest the using of harsh, negative methods (such as choke  chains, pinch collars or electric collars)."

That so? You think PAIN is the only way a EXXXPERT like gil and her punk thug coward mental case pals can INFLICT HARM on their dogs like HOWE you prefer? Howe gives positive training a bad name

You mean by not bribing crating choking intimidating and murdering dogs that can’t afford to wait nine years to cure fear aggression or fear of thunder or separaton anXXXIHOWESNESS, which WE KNOW by The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students LIKE LUCY who REPORT their 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS RIGHT HERE. You punk thug coward mental cases call them LIARS on accHOWENT of THEY have EXXXPOSED you as FRAUDS and DOG ABUSING MENTAL CASES when you reply tellin us their dogs DIDN’T GET TRAINED NEARLY INSTANTLY on accHOWENT OF IT CAN’T BE DONE. NHOWE get the heel HOWETA The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Forums and SCHOOL Of HARD KNOCKS and ENTER The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s HUMAN BEHAVIOR RESEARCH LABORATORY:  by his hysterical abuse.

You mean, by IDENTIFYING EXXXPOSING and DISCREDITING the Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug Coward MENTAL CASES who are tellin Lucy she needs to TRAIN her dog after having NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFULLY rehabilitated ALL her dog’s behavior problems INCLUDING FEAR OF THUNDER and DOG AGGRESSION and FOR FREE, to boot, eh jasper?  He’s also dangerous if what I’ve read about his blaming owners for diseases is correct.

You mean STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME. The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s ARCHIVES are FULL of DEATHLY ILL DYING and DEAD DOGS thanks to traditional training methods. We got SIX YEARS of CASE HISTORY DATA with which to PROVE The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME IS REAL. Ask professor SCRUFF SHAKE dermer of UofWI, or better yet, READ HIS POSTED CASE HISTORY of CHRONIC DIS-EASE and OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE DIS-EASES <{) ; ~ ) The mehanism is WELL UNDERSTOOD and DOCUMENTED in scientific literature which The Amazing Puppy Wizard QUOTED and sent to your GENTLE PAL gil mitner white which she promptly KILLFILED, HOWEver, not pryor to MANY of the group members havin had READ the DATA which these LYING DOG ABUSING MENTAL CASES prefer to REPRESS so they don’t LOOK like DOG ABUSERS, like yourself, dog lover <{) ; ~ ) There’s a wealth of information and help on the web

INDEED? The Amazing Puppy Wizard has DISCREDITED it. for people who want to use positive methods.

You mean bribing and withholding attention affection and so called rewards and surgically mutilating dogs on accHOWENT of they someHOWE think that "natural" dogs are DIFFICULT to MANAGE <{) ; ~ )   Ignore Howe,

You’re a dog abusing mental case. find help from people who like dogs and people.

Like youreslf, doug? Doug — Doug Weller — exorcise the demon to reply Doug & Helen’s Dogs http://www.dougandhelen.com A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma’at http://www.hallofmaat.com Doug’s Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk

Here’s some abuse off of your own web page: 11/14/2004 January 12, 2003 Pip Meets the Outside World I’ve been pretty lax with this, but hopefully will start entering (sorry, had to stop to spray something Pip was trying to chew with some anti-chew repellent – most brands which she loves, this one keeps her away from maybe 8 hours) where was I – yes, entering or rather adding stuff more often. Sunday we went to puppy socialization – only 2 other dogs, a Cavalier King Charles and a Toy Poodle – Pip was keen to play with both but the TP was too shy. Monday night though was the big night – her first Agility class. Don’t start getting worried though, this was without equipment, a puppy class run by Greg Detter. The other dogs were much older and larger puppies. Pip thought they were great, especially the one that lunged at her barking! All Pip was allowed to do though was to learn to be around them and about being on her lead. This was her first time outside on a lead. She wasn’t too keen, but is learning. She’s also learning about car travel, as this was an hour there and back. I think Loosie hated it more than Pip, as Loosie in the past was always allowed free in the back of the car, and now she’s crated. Loosie did some work also, on circling and Wait. Thursday night we took Helen and Loosie to Mary Ann Nester’s agility class. Mary Ann had already seen a picture of Pip and in any case has miniature poodles herself. Everyone had to cuddle her. More leash work of course since this time we were just watching. Saturday night was Loosie’s agility night – lots of big dogs and LOTS of barking. A nice indoor venue with a smooth floor. Pip again loved the other dogs, although one Collie sent her crying for a few seconds. We worked more on the leash and she is much happier with it. During the week I’ve been trying to do some clicker work on sit and with a target stick and a floor target. We’re making some progress, but it’s slow. I’ve got to work more consistently and also work on ‘come here’. We’ve also been doing some fetch, mainly without the clicker. PIP DID THE TUNNEL! We’ve got a child’s tunnel, and I set it up in my study. Pip was a bit dubious but only seconds after it was set up Loosie came up and quickly showed her how to do it. No problems now. We’ve booked a weekend in Devon next week in a cottage where Loosie can do agility and Pip have yet another new experience. Socialise, socialise, socialise. Doug So much for your GENTLE methods, eh doug? Here’s what you an your punk thug coward pals want KILLFILED: "A Completely New Model Of Learning"? Naaah. Pavlov Told Us So 100 Years Ago. Sam Corson, Pavlov’s Last Student Demonstrated At UofOH Oxford, That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC. Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of The Scientific Management Of Doggies. <{) ; ~ ) HOWEDY People! Sam Corson, Pavlov’s Last Student Demonstrated At UofOH Oxford That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC. Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of TheScientific Management Of Doggies. From what I’ve read of Jerry’s method it incorporates

a completely new model of learning, which is based (in simplest terms) on the idea that all behavior is the result of finding a way to relieve … read more »

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HOWEDY Doug, HOWEDY doug, [SNIP]

Here’s what you’re snippin, doug: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – in rec.pets.dogs.behavior, Whoever your "we" may be, certainly it’s not the persons who come here looking for help with their dogs. Most of the times, they do desperately need a method that would enable them to cope with their dog, and what they usually get from the regulars is a lecture about what lousy dog owners they are; and, of course, the recommendation to killfile the information that would perhaps allow them to deal with the problem themselves  in a fast, easy and safe way, without causing any harm to their dog. Lucy Lucy,     I understand where you are coming from. alison is a lying dog abusing congenital IDIOT.

You want proof, doug?: Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:26 PM "Owners Should Always Be Given The Cold, Hard Facts: They Should NEVER FEEL GUILTY For Having An Aggressive Dog Euthanized." THAT’S your CONGENITAL IDIOT pal alison, doug. The dog in questions was REHABILITATED from FEAR AGGRESSION of other dogs after bein beat up in the no kill shelter for two years by other dogs. The dog was turning on his handler and her grandaughter. TOOK THREE DAYS to rehabiliate Spot, doug. Your punk thug pals told Valerie TO MURDER IT, doug. Thanks for the url,

BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAAA!!! The url is that of gill mitner white, a notoriHOWES lying dog abusing punk thug coward <{) ; ~ ) You’re lying,

The Amazing Puppy Wizard has IDENTIFIED EXXXPOSED and DISCREDITED gill and yourself, doug, based on your own written words. We ain’t playin games here, doug. DOGS GET DEAD on accHOWENT of dog abusers like you and gill, alison, and the rest of these lying dog abusing punk thug coward active acute long term incurable mental cases CAN’T STOP HURTIN INTIMDIATING and MURDERING dogs, doug <{) ; ~ )  I’ve read her posts there.

Did you read ANY posted CASE HISTORIES of ANY succesfully rehabilitated behavior problems, doug? Did you see ANY dogs rehabilitated of ANY behavior problem NEARLY INSTANTLY and not to mention FOR FREE, to boot? NO doug, there’s NO CASE HISTORY DATA supportin ANY of gil’s METHODS, doug. All she does is rote repetition and bribery for behaviors the dogs would ordinarily do NEARLY INSTANTLY just for the askin, if you didn’t bribe and intimidate them to do it. for some reason I haven’t run across that forum. On accHOWENT of it’s not a PUBIC forum so folks can’t SEE what’s goin on unless they join the membership. You’ll SEE that gill got NO METHOD to TRAIN dogs, she ONLY SELLS LESSONS. It’s a public forum.

Oh good! Ask gill where she filed The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s OFFENSIVE posts, doug. The Amazing Puppy Wizard sent her PUBIC FORUM scientific and CASE HISTORY DATA PROVING that what she does to dogs CAUSES temperament and behavior problems that SHE CANNOT rehabilitate by SELLING LESSONS. Every "SOLUTION" gill offers on her PUBIC FORUM is to "CALL HER" for MOORE INFORMATION. HOWE COME she can’t CURE separation anXXXIHOWESNESS or fear of thunder IN WON DAY JUST LIKE HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students ALL OVER the WHOWEL WILD WORLD REPORT RIGHT HERE, JUST LIKE HOWE Lucy done and REPRORTED RIGHT HERE to the lying dog abusing punk thug coward active acute long term INCURABLE MENTAL CASES who are callin her a LIAR?: LIKE THIS, doug: "Just Want To Second Jerry’s Method For Dealing With This (Destructive Separation Anxiety). I’ve Suggested It To Quite A Few Clients Now And It’s Worked ‘EVERY TIME The Very First Time’ – marilyn, Trainer, 33 Years Experience. AND LIKE THIS, doug: To: The Puppy Wizard Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:12 PM Aloha Jerry, Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy technique is working wonders.  I have not had a shredded sheet for over a week now.  It is nice to be able to leave the bed made and come home to a made bed. Your program is awesome, but you already know that.  Keep up the good work! Hoku  Aloha Sunny,  Just follow the training program to the letter, no matter how  insignificant some of the step seem to be and your pupy will  be a very well behaved dog in a few days.  I would seriously consider backing out of the training classes  as they will conflict with the Wit’s End principles.  I went the training route first, and still had problems until I  found Wits’ End.  Now I have two "new and improved" dogs.  You won’t be dissapointed if you follow the program.  Good luck,  Hoku AND LIKE THIS, doug:  Chris Williams writes:

"The FREE Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what I’ve always done without thinking of it as "training". New stuff, I’ve used. His anchoring technique erased the last of Mac’s fireworks trauma," IN FACT, doug, The Amazing Puppy Wizard can do it AUTOMAGICKALLY from five hundred feet away… LIKE THIS, doug:   Engrossing account, Anthony.  Our best to Angel and your family.   A friend, who socializes the kittens I’ve taken from a feral cat colony, is using the DDR.   She reports far fewer panic problems than she’s had before. True, you have to register, but you have to register for most web forums.

You ain’t got to register to post to The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Forums and SCHOOL Of HARD KNOCKS and HUMAN BEHAVIOR RESEARCH LABORATORY. YOU’RE SETTIN IN IT, doug <{) ; ~ ) IN FACT, you could TRAIN your dog FASTER usin The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual than it’ll take to REGISTER and read gill’s USELESS website. LIKE THIS, doug:  Daylight Time  Well, let me tell you, your Wits’ End  Dog Training Method works.  My dog, Dasie, Loves to chase chameleons  around the barbecue on the patio. I  used this system on four different occasions.  When she went out today, she looked  everywhere else but the barbecue.  Amazing, just amazing.   I will write to Amanda about the video.  I am really excited to learn more, and  understand. Maybe just a little reassurance  that I am going about it the right way.  Thanks again  Paul There’s no charge,

Well, that’s NICE on accHOWENT of there’s NO information there. and she does give free advice.

She ADVISES folks to "CALL ME" for LESSONS. She’s got NO METHODS other than jerk choke bribe and AVOID the behavior problems HER INEFFECTIVE BRIBE FORCE and INTIMIDATION METHODS cause <{) ; ~ ) You’ll see NO CASE HISTORIES of SUCCESS for ANY temperament or behaivor problem, only EXXXCUSES for not bein able to train ALL behaivors NEARLY INSTANTLY withHOWET HURTING and MURDERIN dogs to do it. You are lying again.

Well then doug, perhaps you’ll CITE WON case of fear of thunder, separation anXXXIHOWESNESS, aggression or ANY Obsessive Compulsive DIS-EASE like paw licking granulomas CURED through her ADVICE and LESSONS, doug? You’d think her PUBIC FORUM would have SOME posts, EVEN JUST WON sayin "THANK YOU, gill, your METHOD saved my dog’s life". No doug, you’ll NOT find ANY POSTED CASE HISTORIES of ANY dog being trained for ANY behavior NEARLY INSTANTLY. OR FOR FREE, to boot <{) ;~ )  I like the fact that you have to agree to this statement:

Talk is CHEAP, doug. "It deals with them in a positive manner using positive methods.

Yeah. EVERY "EXXXPERT" dog trainer sez the same same and relies on bribery, withholding bribes rewards affection and attention, avoidance, fear, force, and intimidation <{) ; ~ ) AND THEY KNOW WHEN TO MURDER DOGS, doug. Well that’s the big lie, dufus. gill mitner white is a DOG ABUSER and FRAUD. LOOK AT HER OWN POSTED CASE HISTORIES of DISMAL FAILURE and requests to "CALL ME for FURTHER ADVICE" and a warning to "BE PATIENT, dog behavior problems can’t be CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY <{) ; ~ ) Which is true.

You mean DOGS CAN’T BE REHABILITATED and TRAINED NEARLY INSTANTLY JUST LIKE HOWE Lucy REPORTED RIGHT HERE, doug? Well doug, The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s SCIENTIFIC and CASE HISTORY DATA disproves all THAT, doug. ALL behavior and temperament problems are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING and therefore ALL temperament and behavior problems can be CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY JUST LIKE HOWE Lucy was TELLIN YOU in THIS thread, JUST LIKE HOWE C-HOWENTLESS other 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students ALL OVER The WHOWEL WILD WORLD REPORT RIGHT HERE. Your punk thug coward lying dog abusing long term active acute INCURABLE MENTAL CASE PALS CALL THEM LIARS and their posts FORGERIES on accHOWENT of THEY EMBARRASS THEM. JUST LIKE HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard EMBARRASSED YOU by QUOTING YOUR OWN WORDS, doug <{) ; ~ )  It does not advocate, agree with or suggest the using of harsh, negative methods (such as choke chains, pinch collars or electric collars)."

THEN HOWE COME SHE CAN’T REHABILITATE BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS NEARLY INSTANTLY, JUST LIKE HOWE ALL The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ … read more »

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HOWEDY alison you congenital idiot,

Alison’s post wasn’t in any of these groups. Howe is just going wild and madly crossposting from a thread in another group. However, since I am now reading uk.rec.pets.misc and she posted a nice UK website, I’ll repost my response to her post: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Whoever your "we" may be, certainly it’s not the persons who come here looking for help with their dogs. Most of the times, they do desperately need a method that would enable them to cope with their dog, and what they usually get from the regulars is a lecture about what lousy dog owners they are; and, of course, the recommendation to killfile the information that would perhaps allow them to deal with the problem themselves in a fast, easy and safe way, without causing any harm to their dog. Lucy Lucy,     I understand where you are coming from. I was friendly with Jerry myself once.  You’re saying his method is fast , easy and safe but do you think you’re qualified to judge?    Why not pop along to this postive training and behaviour forum and find out why actions like throwing cans of pennies around can often do more harm than good.   http://www.takingthelead.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl

Thanks for the url, for some reason I haven’t run across that forum. I like the fact that you have to agree to this statement: "It deals with them in a positive manner using positive methods. It does not advocate, agree with or suggest the using of harsh, negative methods (such as choke chains, pinch collars or electric collars)." Howe gives positive training a bad name by his hysterical abuse.  He’s also dangerous if what I’ve read about his blaming owners for diseases is correct. There’s a wealth of information and help on the web for people who want to use positive methods.  Ignore Howe, find help from people who like dogs and people. Doug — Doug Weller — exorcise the demon to reply Doug & Helen’s Dogs http://www.dougandhelen.com A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma’at http://www.hallofmaat.com Doug’s Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk

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HOWEDY racetrack silly, Here are just a few things to take into consideration

Sez you, a lying dog abusing punk thug coward mental case. when being advised to read

By The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students from ALL OVER The WHOWEL WILD WORLD who REPORT 100% CONSISTENT NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS for ALL dogs and ALL behaviors and ALL handlers in ALL fields <{); ~ ) the ‘manual’

The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual <{); ~ ) written by the ‘Puppy Wizard’,

You mean Jerry Howe, The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) or follow his ‘advice’:

The Amazing Puppy Wizard doesn’t GIVE ADIVCE, racetrack silly. The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students ALL OVER The WHOWEL WILD WORLD GET 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS on accHOWENT of The Amazing Puppy Wizard teaches them a PRECISE, NON PHYSICAL, SCIENTIFIC and PSYCHOLOGICAL conditioning techniques that trains ALL dogs NEARLY INSTANTLY. – His beliefs/opinions about dogs –

The SCIENCE of BEHAVIOR is NOT a matter of OPINION or BELIEF, racetrack silly. The Amazing Puppy Wizard has CITED scientific peer reviewed INFORMATION EXXXPLAINING HOWE COME punishment and bribery DO NOT WORK, AS EVIDENCED by your own POSTED CASE HISTORY of HURTING INTIMIDATING and MURDERING dogs and LYING abHOWET it, racetrack silly <{); ~ ) You and your MENTALLY ILL lying dog abusing punk thug coward active acute long term incurable mental case pals can kick and scream all the way back to the MENTAL HOWES but you CANNOT DENY your own POSTED CASE HISTORIES of HURTING INTIMIDATING and MURDERING dogs and LYING abHOWET it, racetrack silly. – he’s said that he doesn’t like dogs,

WON NEED NOT LIKE dogs to know enough NOT TO HURT THEM, racetrack silly. You HURT INTIMDIATE and MURDER dogs on accHOWENT of YOU LOVE THEM. You HURT THEM for their own good, to stop them from GETTIN MURDERED BY YOU <{); ~ ) You can’t post here abHOWETS nodoGgamenedMOORE, you and your lying dog abusing punk thug coward active acute long term incurable MENTAL CASE PALS, racetrack silly <{); ~ ) HOWE COME do you think your pal lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn and lying frosty dahl and booby maida and captain arthur haggerty and professor SCRUFF SHAKE dermer DON’T POST HERE abHOWETS nodoGgamenedMOORE, racetrack silly? On accHOWENT of The Amazing Puppy Wizard has DISCREDITED them by QUOTING THEIR OWN WORDS, JUST LIKE HOWE HE DONE you, racetrack silly <{) ; ~ )  and it does not appear that he has dogs

WON need not own dogs or have children to know HOWE to pupperly handle raise and train them. and is not clear that he ever had dogs.

That’s on accHOWENT of this AIN’T abHOWET The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s dogs. HEEL, any "trainer" can train a demo dog. The Amazing Puppy WIzard’s DEMO dogs are HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students all over the WHOWEL WILD WORLD who REPORT their 100% CONSISTENT NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS RIGHT HERE. You and your mentally ill lying dog abusing punk thug coward long term incurable active acute MENTAL PATIENTS CALL THEM LIARS and their posts FORGERIES by The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) : ~ ) HEEL, EVEN IF that was TRUE, HOWE would you diminish the FACT the you hurt intimidate and murder dogs that The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW WIts’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students ALL OVER The WHOWEL WILD WORLD have REPORTED CURING NEARLY INSTANTLY, racetrack silly?  He believes that a dog is a dog is a dog

That’s correct. They handle and train up JUST LIKE KIDS.  and that there is no difference between the temperaments and learning styles

That’s correct. The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL METHODS WORK on ALL critters on accHOWENT of: "Whelan illustrates the simple nature or the learning process by referring to Ferster’s engaging study of two three year old chimpanzees taught mathematics through simple procedures. Whelan carries this EVIDENCE a step futher by pointing HOWET it’s applicability to disturbed children." ON ACCHOWENT OF:    "The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior                     Never Change,     Or They’d Not Be Scientific And Could Not Obtain       Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results             For All Handler’s And All Dogs,             ALL OVER THE WHOLE WILD WORLD,                  NEARLY INSTANTLY,    As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard’s     FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual,"            The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ )   AND THAT’S HOWE COME:        You Get The Critter You Trained ON ACCHOWENT OF:                A Dog Is A Dog              As A Kat Is A Kat            As A Birdie Is A Birdie             As A Child Is A Child          As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES. ON ACCHOWENT OF:         ALL Critters Only Respond In    PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL INSTINCTIVE                REFLEXIVE Ways To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment           Which We Create For Them.          Damn The Descartean War of            "Nature Vs Nurture."      We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions         And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.    In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS            FAILURE MEANS DEATH.                SAME SAME,   For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS. SEE?: Dan, my own firm hatred of punishment has recently been intensified by meeting The Puppy Wizard, Jerry Howe, whose work with dogs is marvelous. There is a literature on harms caused by time out, and perhaps you’d like to look at http://www.dogydoright.com George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H. "As Sam Corson (Pavlov’s last student) demonstrated for nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving care." George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate, Academy of Behavioral Medicine Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below. I’m glad that you referred negatively to Jerry’s habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything. I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his way of diluting his authority – IME he is a very modest fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very competent at living with dogs. I thought I’d list a series of actions which I found on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about dogs doing this and that, for example: whining, humping, hunching, pacing, self mutilation – paw licking, side sucking, spinning, prolonged barking, barking at shadows, overstimulated barking, fighting, bullying other dogs, compulsive digging, compulsive scratching, compulsive chewing, frantic behavior, chasing light, chasing shadow, stealing food, digging in garbage can, loosing house (toilet) training. inappropriate fearfulness aggression. The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of the intervening time working with animals (including the human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don’t even see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren’t dog related). You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans. As Sam Corson (Pavlov’s last student) demonstrated for nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving care. George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate, Academy of Behavioral Medicine of breeds

That’s IRRELEVENT. A DOG IS A DOG. LIKE THIS: "If chimpanzees CAN LEARN mathematics through step by step learning AT THEIR OWN PACE, reinforced primarily by CORRECT ANSWERS rather than with "fruit loops and rasins", we can assume that even developmentally RETARDED or CONfHOWENDED children CAN LEARN as well. Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:31 AM How does diagnosis shape treatment? Nearly every week I have a visit from Jerry Howe, who publicizes himself as The Puppy Wizard. Jerry is a master at behavioral modification of dogs. His fundamental bedrock is the work Pavlov’s last student, the late Sam Corson, Ph.D., did at the U of Ohio (at Oxford,O). Sam always pointed out if the dog stopped working for you in the lab, Pavlov and he always took the dog away from the lab, and put him in a loving home and gave him TLC for a couple of months, and then started, very carefully, over again. Jerry believes that reward and constraint focused training is immoral. I’ve watched him in one short session calm impossible dogs, just about to be murdered (oops "put to sleep") because of their "incorrigibly" violent behavior. Sam was one of the first people to apply amphetamine to hyperactivity (he searched the Middle West for hyperactive dogs); but he never lost sight of the fundamental reality that a dog is not a human, but does respond, doggily, to dog love. You might be surprised to go to B. F. Skinner’s "Cumulative Record" and read the essay by Breland and Breland, "The Misbehavior of Organisms". Animals cannot be successfully trained unless the trainer attends to the evolutionary history, the individual’s developmental history, and the environmental niche of the animal being trained. Yep, right there in Skinner’s last and summary book. Even with behavior mod, you must know the animal. … read more »

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HOWEDY alison you congenital idiot, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Whoever your "we" may be, certainly it’s not the persons who come here looking for help with their dogs. Most of the times, they do desperately need a method that would enable them to cope with their dog, and what they usually get from the regulars is a lecture about what lousy dog owners they are; and, of course, the recommendation to killfile the information that would perhaps allow them to deal with the problem themselves in a fast, easy and safe way, without causing any harm to their dog. Lucy  Lucy,      I understand where you are coming from.

That so, alison? You’re a dog abusing punk thug coward liar JUST LIKE your pals here abHOWETS. I was friendly with Jerry myself once.

Yeah. That was pryor to tellin us HOWE you abuse your dogs.   You’re saying his method is fast ,

You mean, LIKE THIS, alison?: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tracy, What worked for me, in just one storm, was to praise the dog after each clap of thunder, telling him he’s a Good Dog! This is an almost 13 year old Doberman, BTW. The next time it thundered, he did not even react at all–you could not tell it was the same dog as before. There was more thunder just the other day, and same thing, nada, nothing, zilch, no cowering, whimpering, trying to hide at all, it was that simple. I got this idea from Jerry Howe, who might seem to be a "wild and crazy" character, but his non- abusive way of handling dogs WORKS. Wonderfully. Praise. It’s that simple. Juanita

AND LIKE THIS, alison:  Daylight Time  Well, let me tell you, your Wits’ End  Dog Training Method works.  My dog, Dasie, Loves to chase chameleons  around the barbecue on the patio. I  used this system on four different occasions.  When she went out today, she looked  everywhere else but the barbecue.  Amazing, just amazing.   I will write to Amanda about the video.  I am really excited to learn more, and  understand. Maybe just a little reassurance  that I am going about it the right way.  Thanks again  Paul AND LIKE THIS, alison: Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:46 AM Hi Jerald, Just wanted to tell you we read your manual and have started working with the dogs… "Chloe" (the one we adopted–a. k. a. "The Destroyer") has already shown great improvement! (In Just 1 DAY!) She responds even better than our other (better-behaved) dog "Poe". We tried out the surrogate toy technique, and not a thing was touched when we got back! We were both surprised because Chloe isn’t that interested in toys and was still very uptight about us reaching for the door… anyway, it seemed to work. We both work all day today so we’ll see how that goes… Regardless, we will be cool as cukes when we get home! I’m just so thankful we might have a chance to get through to her! We’re very excited about her progress thus far… Thank You! Nicole, Michael, Poe and especially Chloe! AND LIKE THIS, alison:

Re: Barking Deterrants Needed… Hi. Please understand that I do not know Jerry and have spoken with him briefly once by email. I have no stake or interest in the success of  his business.  I simply want to thank him publicly for one of his tips, with regards to separation anxiety. I thought it seemed far fetched to praise a stuffed animal and then say good bye to my own dog, but I am usually a very open minded person, so I tried it. Well, lo and behold- the damn trick worked! I think Jerry has some intriguing techniques, and personally I think everyone who constantly criticizes him is not understanding his logic. Thank you Jerry! Or was you think maybe a little less simple, maybe a little longer, LIKE THIS?: Your dog needs to be retrained. Contact Mr. Jerry Howe. Http://www.DoggyDoRight.com You can start by downloading the free training manual available on the site above. I used it on my 4 year old Fila Brasileiro. When I first brought him home from rescue, he was similar to the way you decribed your dog. After using Mr. Howe’s training method, the dog was cured within 72 hours. -Jack

NEARLY INSTANT. MAYBE FASTER, alison. LIKE THIS:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jerry believes he’s a dog trainer. Fortunately, I happen to believe he is too. I took a rescued three year old beagle that had been kept outside all of its life that didn’t even recognize or respond to its name to Jerry’s home (That ugly cinder block shack??? get real) and in just over one hour of working with the dog, he was coming on command (not a quickly as he does now, but still…) and walking with us on a loose lead. His "hot/cold" exercise and "come when called" command and pack exercise WORK! and in all likelihood he’s never even been near a dog. Well, he’s been near mine, and done wonders for him. You don’t have to like him.  You don’t have  to agree with his methods, but as far as I am concerned, I’ve never seen any other training approach that was as fast and easy. <<<< Rest of original post deleted Ron Flanagan Orlando, Florida

And HERE’S EVEN FASTER, alison, AT LEAST according to YOUR OWN PAL marilyn rammell: "Just Want To Second Jerry’s Method For Dealing With This (Destructive Separation Anxiety). I’ve Suggested It To Quite A Few Clients Now And It’s Worked ‘EVERY TIME The Very First Time’ – marilyn, Trainer, 33 Years Experience. marilyn doesn’t want to post here abHOWETS nodoGgamenedMOORE on accHOWENT of she don’t want to have to call you and your MENTALLY ILL PALS freakin liars and dog abusers, alison. easy

You mean, LIKE THIS, alison?: To: The Puppy Wizard Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:12 PM Aloha Jerry, Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy technique is working wonders.  I have not had a shredded sheet for over a week now.  It is nice to be able to leave the bed made and come home to a made bed. Your program is awesome, but you already know that.  Keep up the good work! Hoku and safe

You mean, LIKE THIS, alison?:  Aloha Sunny,  Just follow the training program to the letter, no matter how  insignificant some of the step seem to be and your pupy will  be a very well behaved dog in a few days.  I would seriously consider backing out of the training classes  as they will conflict with the Wit’s End principles.  I went the training route first, and still had problems until I  found Wits’ End.  Now I have two "new and improved" dogs.  You won’t be dissapointed if you follow the program.  Good luck,  Hoku Or did you mean FAST EZ GENTLE and SAFE LIKE THIS, alison?: Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:54 AM Jerry! You helped me with my pal Dundee about a year ago regarding submissive peeing.  Just wanted to let you know he’s doing great- he was "cured" in about 2 days using your techniques! He has since become the "smartest dog in the world"! Once I stopped thinking like a human and got inside his head, I can teach him ANYTHING, usually in a matter of minutes.  Makes me look like an expert dog-trainer. I rescued two strays last week, cleaned ‘em up, wormed ‘em, and am getting them their shots. Time to get inside their heads and teach them to teach themselves how to be good dogs! Instead of feeling like "training" is a chore, I look forward to working with these guys a couple times a day… Although I don’t follow your instructions "to a T", I learned from you to "think like a dog" and stimulate their brain rather than beating ass or pinching, or any of that nonsense. I know damn well I would NOT be loyal to someone who beat MY ass lol! Well, just wanted to thank you for rattling the bushes out there and teaching folks the RIGHT way to "train" dogs. A horseman friend of mine uses very similar techniques in training his horses- he calls it "natural horsemanship".  He is hated by nearly all the local "trainers" yet somehow he repeatedly wins at every show he attends. He rarely shows any more, but goes now and then to rub their noses in it (pun intended)…  Too cool…. Have a great holiday season and keep up the good work! Eric , Dundee, Sammy, and Maynard AND LIKE THIS, alison: Both my dogs at some stage have licked a spot somewhere on their bodies and I have always managed to train them to stop. In all cases there was nothing wrong that licking would have helped (Roz has had cut pads, stitches in her belly and skin irritations, all tempting her to lick), none of their licking has been due to any allergies. When I see the dog licking more than normal I look at the spot to see whats there and decide if a vet appointment is needed or to wait and see, keeping a close eye. To stop the licking I distract the dog and give it some friendly banter, when it starts licking again I repeat, … read more »

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HOWEDY diana aka lush, Here are just a few things to take into consideration when being advised to read the ‘manual’ written by the ‘Puppy Wizard’, or follow his ‘advice’: Well written, nice one

INDEED? Diana & Cin — Cindy the weimaraner’s web site: http://cindy-incidentally.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk

HERE’S HOWE COME you’re a miserable drunken lying dog abusing punk thug coward MENTAL CASE, lush: Here’s our dog lover lush, before she found out she was a Thug. Since then, she’s been organizing complain to Jerry’s ISP campaigns: Statement Being That I Actually Like Jerry And His Stuff," lush Cheers, Sionnch,  I was getting a bit paranoid there and I did think you were  just all on a mission to hound me out after my statement.  I’ve got some time now so I will answer you questions as  it so obviously caused great upset amongst you all. That statement being that I actually like Jerry and his stuff. Read carefully if you interested, because I know how easy it is to miss things, grab the wrong end of the stick etc & misinterpret… done it myself a million times. It also goes quite in depth about the dogs I lived with as a child and the methods my parents used to train both the dogs and us. I barely remember the Shelti my parents had when I was born -apparently she died when I was about 2, but we got Ivan the Samoyed (visually – not pure) when I was 3(ish). I do remember even going to pick him up as a pup and there were little fluffy baby dogs everywhere… some were black and I wanted a black one but Dad said we had to have a white one because Samoyeds were supposed to be white and we wanted it to look like we had a pure samoyed – don’t hang me here – remember it clear as day but I was only about 3. We lived in Vancouver then.. if anyone’s interested. I loved Ivan – but he chewed our toys. This made Dad mad so he would hit him so hard he screamed and throw him down the stairs. Tony (brother) was a toddler – but I remember that I had to look out for any  toys, both mine and his to make sure they would not be chewed and those that were got, got hidden. His temper and excessive punishments were not just for Ivan. I remember clearly one morning being up before my parents and playing in the kitchen, pretending to be mum, as kids do… but got caught with the electric carving knife.  A leather belt across the backside hurts. Even now I can not understand how he could have done that to a 3-4 year old child… or a pup. When I was four my parents decided that they wanted to come back to England and I remember hating the little girl who came with her dad to take Ivan away and being told he would be her dog now. We came o England & stayed at Nan’s for some time. Nan had Sheba- beautiful but elderly Rough Collie. Was so passive and quiet . Then one day I fell down the stairs. As I tumbled down, she came up and caught me… at four I was feeling more and more fearful of people but safe in the company of dogs. We moved out of Nan’s and in to our own home. It was a large house & had a huge garden & was opposite a large public park – I think I was about 51/2 when Dad brought home Tisha – a Borzoi pup. She wet & messed the floor and was punished by having her nose pushed in it, a slipper across the backside so she yelped and being thrown outside, I didn’t like this – I was sure they didn’t have to do this to her. Dad loved her – she was his dog and we had to ask permission to touch her. He liked his big car ~ posh dog image. The garden was big, the fence was big – the park opposite was fun the road in between was fast. Tisha got big and took a big jump. She made 18 months. The discussions went on – Dad wanted a dog for himself, so it was decided that they were going to get an Old English Sheepdog for them and a Basset for us kids… then we went around to loads of breeders and saw loads of pups – dogs being very my passion I took it all in. I remember the Old English Sheepdog lady telling Mum why she thought we shouldn’t have one with 2 young children, and so it was decided that while Dad made up his mind what he wanted, Mum would take us to the RSPCA to choose a dog for us. We picked up Sadie in 1976 – 4 months old JRT x. I was 7 – I was unhappy at school, I had never settled in,at first being shy of my different accent and because I was a timid child anyway. Sadie was my olny friend. Sadie messed the floor, Sadie got her nose shoved in it, and the whack – Sadie did not learn – she was so scared of people coming down the stairs in the morning that she wet & messed the floor – so they hit her. I would try and sneak down and tidy up before they came down – I would get hit for being soft on her. Sadie pulled on the lead. I never mentioned mum was a horse fanatic ~ she showed me that the way to stop Sadie pulling was to snap a shoot from a tree and use it as a whip on the dogs nose. I didn’t like it but I knew no better – I was desperately looking for a better method – it was my job to walk her after school. Barbara  Woodhouse came on tv… my love of dogs and all I had learnt about breeds now extended and I learnt about choke collars – much preferable to the whip – I also saw how she used methods such as copying the dogs play stance and how she had commended someone for using my trick of rubbing a dogs chest to calm it – I was dead proud because I had already learnt that for myself. Sadie was a JRT x. She was also as afraid of my bad tempered and unreasonable father as I was. We spent so much time curled together, cowering behind the sofa. I had always thought it would be great if I could teach Sadie to speak. She got pretty good at the jumps and obedience games we played in the garden and I was learning bout how to ask her to do these things using enthusiasm as the motivation. ‘Look, come on, we can do this…’ I wish my parents could have looked out of the window to see this. I was 9 when Mum got taken in to hospital to have Jonny. Something had gone wrong and she was in there for 3 months. Sadie went to kennels, Me & Tony went to Nan’s. Sheba had long since gone and she had Bridie, another rough collie. Bridie had a long, long pedigree – she also had a long, long nose… so long she could not close her mouth properly. For a young dog she may have looked beautiful but she couldn’t / wouldn’t do anything.I would walk her and should float along behind – I had always dreamt of breeding Old English Mastiffs when I was grown up. I decided I no longer liked the idea of breeding beautiful pedigrees. Jonny was born and we all came home. Sadie loved the baby. She would, at any time when we were together, take my hand in her mouth and take me to the crib, which she would stand up against, watching. I realised that this was my childhood dream – Sadie was talking to me. I realised then too that she had been all along. It was my fault for not listening. Dad’s business started going wrong. We had to sell the house. Sadie went to kennels & we moved around in rented accommodation for a while. Sadie was my only friend and I missed her. Eventually we found a place where  Sadie could come. It was great to have her back but she had been disturbed. She had never been totally housetrained – due to her fear of punishment – Dad’s failing business made him even worse & his bad temper was becoming more & more viscous. Sadie messed the floor, Sadie jumped on the kitchen counter & stole food, Sadie’s punishments were beatings so bad I thought he’d kill her. I would scream & cry, I would get some to. Eventually, by the time I was 10 we found a cottage they could afford and Dad started his business again. He struggled & struggled and was becoming nastier and nastier. We all just kept out of the way. Mum & Dad would go out to the Pub and I would look after my brothers – while they were out we were fine. Luckily they were out a lot. I was 14 when Dulcie, my sister was born. I couldn’t see why they did this – I was already pretty much the only mother Jonny knew, Dad’s business was failing again and we had to sell the house again. Rented accommodation again – no dogs. Sadie went to stay at Dad’s business property for a while. It was a fair way away and I went with Dad to work on Saturdays when I could – but he didn’t want me there. I saw her loose her ‘terrierness’ and she looked so sad – then Mum took her to kennels, this time for good. I was completely broken by this but could do nothing else. Things got worse & to be honest I blocked most of my memory of the in-between years. I jumped into the first job I could get to get me away from home as soon as possible & not so much chose a career as made an escape. I left home but was so hard up I worked day & night just for rent and food. I was doing hairdressing – poor choice for a young girl nigh on phobic of people. It did help bring me back out of myself but I knew I was playing the wrong game. My boss at the hairdressers found me the job at the sign makers and I was finally able to start doing what I was good at. Unfortunately just in time for the early 90′s recession… so for the love of the job I struggled on low wages and living in bedsits All this time I could not have a dog. I needed a stable home environment & I struggled & struggled on low wages just hoping this dream would come true… In between time everybody’s dog was my dog. I was always willing to walk them & learn from them. People were always happy to get out of walkies if there was a willing volunteer… and I realised how much Sadie had taught me. From JRT’s to Rotties & Danes.. they responded to enthusiasm, eye contact and body stance. It … read more »

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HOWEDY racetrack silly, you miserable lyin dog murderin psychoclHOWE, Here are just a few things to take into consideration when being advised to read the ‘manual’

You mean, advised by The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students all over the WHOWEL WILD WORLD, racetrack silly? written by the ‘Puppy Wizard’,

You mean PLAGIARIZED, racetrack silly, don’t you? or follow his ‘advice’:

You mean the dangerHOWES ineffective advice, racetrack silly? – His beliefs/opinions about dogs –

Dog trainin AIN’T a matter of OPINION or BELIEF, it’s a PRECISE SCIENCE AS TAUGHT in your FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual and PROVEN by The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Student’s POSTED CASE HISTORIES from all over the WHOWEL WILD WORLD <{) ; ~ ) You call them LIARS and FORGERIES, you freakin lyin dog abusing mental case <{) ; ~ )  - he’s said that he doesn’t like dogs,

WON AIN’T GOT to LIKE dogs not to HURT them like HOWE you do, racetrack silly. You LIKE dogs enough to MURDER them when it’s CONVIENIENT for them to DIE at your hands. and it does not appear that he has dogs and is not clear that he ever had dogs.

That so, racetrack silly? He believes that

"BELIEFS" got NUTHIN to do with the SCIENCE OF BEHAVIOR. a dog is a dog is a dog

INDEEDY. As a child is a child as a kat is a kat as a wolf is a wolf. THEY ALL RESPOND THE SAME SAME. and that there is no difference between the temperaments and learning styles of breeds that have been bred for generations to do a particular job.

You mean, you can’t HURT INTIMIDATE BRIBE CRATE and MURDER critters LIKE HOWE YOU and your dog murderin mental case pals DONE, racetrack silly: Damn Gwen, don’t mince words or anything.  I will assume, from the above, that in your eyes, I am not trustworthy to rescue Boxers or make decisions on who gets to adopt them…having killed my own dog and all. You’re not the only one.  After numerous training classes, behavioral consultations, and hundreds of dollars in vet bills, I killed my Dalmatian several years ago due to extreme dog-aggressiveness.

Did you have to pay for it, or did the local Animal Protection League, where you were board President while 70% of the animals coming in for rescue were being killed, give you a freebie? Either she was going to kill Tasha, my Siberian with the rock steady temperament, or Tasha was going to kill her, right in front of us.  My DH’s first dog, and still the canine love of his life. Good thing that Gwen is perfect in her stewardship of her animals.

Gwen didn’t murder her own dog. You and Tara O. did. michael live.. dogtv.comn He claims that all misbehaviors and illnesses are caused by mishandling or abuse.

ALL TEMPERAMENT and BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY MISHANDLING. MOST DIS-EASES are STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE, aka The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME <{) ; ~ ) These opinions are not supported by the literature.

INDEEDY. You mean the LITERATURE that tells you to choke shock crate bribe and murder dogs you’re AFRAID to HURT and INTIMDIATE someMOORE <{) ; ~ ) – His claim that he can train any dog in the world while sitting naked in front of his computer, without personally assessing said dog.  This is simply not credible.

RIGHT! UNTIL YOU READ THE CASE HISTORY DATA, racetrack silly. Additionally, he appears to spend all of his time posting to various newsgroups, some of which have nothing to do with dogs;

You mean, the parenting and child care news groups, racetrack silly? CuriHOWES AIN’T IT, HOWE COME parents HATE The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s INFORMATION and CASE HISTORY DATA as much as HOWER DOG LOVERS HATE HIM for NOT HURTING and MURDERING critters, racetrack silly <{) ; ~  )  he digs up and responds to old posts,

Yeah. EMBARRASSIN, AIN’T IT. responds to his own posts himself,

On accHOWENT of you miserable COWARD won’t reply to DEFEND your PAIN FEAR FORCE and INTIMDIATION <{) ; ~ ) posts and cross-posts sometimes hundreds of posts a day and all through the night.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard is on a MISSION to HOWEND you to the gates of heel and LOCK YOU BUMS INSIDE and throw away the key… This suggests that he’s not spending much time actually training dogs.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard doesn’t NEED to SEE a dog to TRAIN IT, racetrack silly. ALL temperament and behavior problems are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING, as you’ve PROVEN through YOUR OWN POSTED CASE HISTORY. – His reputation, or lack of same – - though he claims to be a well-known dog trainer, no one who lives in the area where he lives has ever heard of him.

Oh. THAT’S on accOHOWENT of The Amazing Puppy Wizard is new to HIS neighborhood, racetrack silly.  - His behavior on this newsgroup.  He follows people around, often emailing them personally, harassing them about extremely painful things such as a dog’s chronic or terminal medical problems

You mean, STRESS INDUCED AUTO IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME, racetrack silly <{) ; ~ ) or having to euthanize a dog for temperament problems.

Like HOWE you done, racetrack silly, DESPITE of all your "RESOURCES" and PROFESSIONAL TRAINING and VETERINARY BEHAVIORISTS <{) ; ~ )   He responds to people he knows have killfiled him because  of his abusive behavior, reposting miles of old material

PRETTY EMBARRASSIN, AIN’T IT. and inserting inane comments.

You mean, like EXXXPLAINING HOWE shocking dogs makes them MURDER their own HOWEskats and ATTACK EACH OTHER (opposite sex dogs, no less), like your mental case pal culprit’s dogs done a couple weeks after she began shocking them.   He is constantly abusive to regulars on this newsgroup,

You mean the lyin dog abusing MENTAL CASES who HURT INTIMDIATE and MURDER dogs like HOWE you done, racetrack silly. many of whom have had little if any contact with him,

SURPRISE? SURPRISE?? SURPRISE??? and makes up slanderous lies about them.

CITES PLEASE, you lyin dog murderin mental case. He is often immediately abusive to newbies who have never had any contact with him,

DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS. and he never answers their questions with any information other than to advertise his ‘manual’ and claim that it will fix anything.

AND IT DOES. BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!! -His writing style – - he rants and raves, often incoherently;

Well, you’d have to be followin HOWER forums to UNDERSTAND. misspells words to insert his name, other people’s names, or words such as "troll"; he makes up names for people and/or makes fun of their names.  This is, at best, unprofessional.

Yeah. As opposed to bein NICE and HURTIN INTIMDIATING and MURDERING dogs and LYING abHOWET it like you and your punk thug coward MENTAL CASE pals. Mustang Sally

                   Jerry’s Dog Training Manual      "I Am Willing To Take Jerry’s Theory On How Dogs Think                         As A Likely One,       Simply Because The Dog Training Methodology He Describes                    (Based On His Suppositions)                      Works So Well," Lisa B. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Lynn, I used to have a barking problem with my German Shepherd Dog a couple of years ago. I tried several things recommended to me by different trainers, and nothing was working. When I read that section of Jerry’s Manual, I thought the same way you did. "What???? PRAISE her for barking?" It sounded counterproductive, but I had tried everything else I’d heard so I thought I’d try it too. Next time she went nuts at a person walking by outside, I told her, "Good job! Good girl! You are such a good protector!" And instead of continuing the barking, she came to me for a belly rub! She will still bark (she’s a guard dog, that’s her job), but after one bark, she knows she’s done her job to warn me by my praise, and she stops. Jenn,

Could you be so kind as to post here the section from Jerry’s manual where he writes that you should JUST praise the   As I recall, I thought he first advocates  distracting the dog from barking, with  keys or the soft sound of pennies in a  can, before praising.  Perhaps you can tutor me regarding  Jerry’s system.  Thanks in advance!  –Marshall Dermer PS: I don’t read Jerry’s posts but I look forward to your post. Hi, DogStar716, sorry you feel this way about me. I hope I can change your mind in the future, as I love reading your posts, and value (and have used) some of your advice.

BWWWWWEEEJAJAJAJAJAJAAAAA!!! As for my post to Jer, I am just attempting to get a plain answer about something instead of a trash- fest. I just want to know if it can be done. Jenn Standring

I’m not Jerry but sure you could use a clicker to distract a dog but that is not the purpose of a clicker. You can also use a teaspoon to cut steak but that is not the purpose of teaspoon! –Marshall Hi Marshall, I’ll do my best to answer you… please bear with me, ok?  :-) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snip Dave’s response Not to mention, the manual has a lot regarding how dogs

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HOWEDY matty, Keiron said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior: He goes to bed in his crate at 10pm each night after having been outside, and until recently was getting through to about 6.15. This has gradually come forward to about 5.15am. Count your blessings that up until now he held it over 8 hours.  When I had a puppy, he always needed a 2 am pee break. Now that he’s 16 weeks, your CKCS’s metabolism may be changing –

That’s sheer idiocy. The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students REPORT HOWEsbreakin their dogs NEARLY INSTANTLY at 6 weeks of age <{) ; ~ ) or he may be just now learning to communicate his discomfort.

You think dogs should be DISOMFITED, matty? When I get up to him, he darts for the door to relieve himself outside. That’s great!

That so? You’re well on the way to having a reliably house-trained puppy.

No, he’s well on his way to havin a NEUROTIC puppy like your DEATHLY ILL dog Rocky who’s DYIN from STRESS INDUCED PSYCHOGENIC SEIZURES <{) ; ~ ) (We withold water from him after about 7pm.) My preference

RIGHT or WRONG is NOT a matter of PREFREENCE, matty. It’s WRONG to withhold water from a puppy. Ask any vet.  would be to get up in the middle of the night rather than withhold water from a puppy.

Yeah… instead of TRAININ the dog to CONTRAIN HISSELF. Is there any way I can get him sleeping through again to about 6.15 (or later in an ideal world!) Should I just ignore his whines?

Yeah. The pup gets ANXXXIHOWES bein locked in the box and THAT’S HOWE COME he wakes up and CRIES. You’ve read that in crate training

There AIN’T NO SUCH THING as CRATE TRAINING, matty. Lockin dogs in boxes MAKES THEM FEARFUL and NEUROTIC. to not take the dog out when he demands it,

RIGHT. You can’t let the dog HOWETA the box if IT is CRYIN… or you’ll TRAIN the dog to CRY to let him HOWET <{) ; ~ )  but to wait until he’s quiet.

PROBLEMO if the dog got to pee, eh matty? There should be a caveat attached to that:

That locking dogs in boxes CAUSES the temperament heelth and behavior problmes HOWER Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug Coward ACTIVE ACUTE LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES dog’s got, like YOURS, matty?   When he’s whining because of physical discomfort,

If your dog is whining for ANY REASON he NEEDS you INSTANTLY.  it’s perfectly OK to take him out to pee

That so, matty? You mean if the dog GOT TO PEE and he CRIES or BARKS or WHINES, you LET HIM HOWET of the box WHEN HE’S BEING BAD, matty? THAT WILL VARIABLY REINFORCE BARKING TO ESCAPE THE CRATE. And the dog will quickly learn to run to the door and PRETEND to PEE so you don’t PUNISH IT for barkin whinin and cryin, matty. THAT’S HOWE COME DOGS GO NUTS, matty <{) ; ~ )   See "Death Producing Ulcers", featuring SCHEDULING as the CAUSE of STRESS which KILLS LABORATORY MONKEYS. – he’s honing the communication skills

THAT’S INSANE, matty <{) ; ~ ) You mean whining crying and barking on accHOWENT of some IDIOT MENTAL CASE locked IT in a box with no food water or toilet, matty?  which will stand you in good stead later.

You mean like if you got locked up in a MENTAL INSTITUTE when you was HOWET to go to your group therapy and your dog needs to cry till the neighbor’s call the cops like they do on Master Of Deception blankman’s barking whining crated dogs, so she day boards them in a sick animal HOWEspital and shocks and sprays aversives in their faces? Surely if 2 weeks ago he was getting through to gone 6, he should be able to go even longer now?

You think the pup may be SICK, matty? FIRST THING you got to do is SEE THE VET when you have CHANGES in behaviors… REMEMBER? Or do you think you can CAVEAT that too? Maybe not – he’s a tiny dog

So what? They’re like military vehicles, tiny or huge, they all run HOWETA fuel at the same time…  (I know, I look after a 5 month  old CKCS 5 days a week

You’re runnin an ILLEGAL doggy B&B, matty <{) ; ~ )  who never peed outside until he came to my daycare)

Oh goody. and his metabolism is probably changing faster than the size of his bladder.

That so? My recommendations: Don’t restrict his water

THAT’S KINDLY of you, matty <{) ; ~ ) unless he’s an inordinate drinker.

Dogs swill DHOWEN all the water set in front of them on accHOWENT of MENTAL CASES like you RESTRICT their water, the same same as dogs SWALLOW STUFF they STEAL so they don’t have to GIVE IT UP <{) ; ~ ) Set your alarm for 2 am.

THAT will DISAVAIL the pup of DEVELOPING SELF CON-TROLL, matty. Good luck!

Dog trainin AIN’T LUCK, matty. "LUCK is for SUCKERS," The Puppy Wizard’s DADDY <{); ~ )  CKCSs are wonderful dogs!

That so, matty? A DOG IS A DOG <{) ; ~ ) –Matt.  Rocky’s a Dog.

Here’s you GETTIN BIT and RIPPED OFF for your bag of goodies and NEARLY KILLED the dog and cost his owner over a THOWESAND BUCKS for surgery over you tryin to BRIBE a dog you got no doGgamened business touchin: HOWEDY matty,

Melinda Shore said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior: To put a dollar value on it:  A "drop it" command would have saved an acquaintance a $1000 surgery bill on her lab.

That so? Seems the DROP IT command happens AFTER the dog has TAKEN the FORBIDDEN FRUIT. Said lab (not a puppy) wouldn’t give up a squeaky and, when presented with a treat in exchange,

You mean as a BRIBE to release what IT got in ITS MHOWETH that YOU WANT MOORE than the stinkin weenie you’re offerin IT in EXXXCHANGE? EVEN A DOG GOT MOORE BRAINS than to fall for THAT kinda IDIOCY. made the decision to swallow the toy

As ANY critter would, being PURSUED by a COMPETITOR, dog lovers. What do you EXXXPECT a dog to do when you’re fixin to STEAL his BHOWENTY. and then grab and swallow the treat bag.

THAT’S what The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s been TELLIN you bums in HIS N.I.L.I.F. Posts. REMEMBER, matty? The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ the dog is fixin to tell yout to SHOVE IT and RIP YOU OFF for your weenies and FIGHT you if you offer a protest. THAT’S HOWE COME your stinkin N.I.L.I.F. program GETS SOME DOGS DEAD, matty. I’m very sorry for what must have been a terrible scare for your friend as well the risk to the dog,

MOST of HOWER DOG LOVERS here abHOWETS have BEEN THROUGH the SAME SAME SAME SAME for the SAME SAME SAME SAME REASON. THAT’S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard goes "BWEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!" REMEMBER NHOWE, matty, you lying dog abusing punk thug coward MENTAL CASE? BWEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!  but it’s hard not to admire a dog with advanced problem-solving skills.

BULLSHIT. The dog attacked the bag of treats based on PREDICTABLE NORMAL NATURAL INNATE INSTINCTIVE REFLECIVE behavior. A freakin CHIMPANZEE woulda seen THAT comin. It was a scare for me, too.

That so, matty? No "skin off your nose," eh matty? Hey? That’s abHOWET HOWE and where leah got bit, too.  How’s this for problem-solving:

AllHOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard to CONsult HIS crystal ball. Ooops! SEZ you’re a lying dog abusing mental case and you can’t post your idiocy here abHOWETS no doGgamened MOORE.  The dog went for the hand that was holding the bag of treats, not the treat in the proffered hand.

SHAAAZZZAAAMMM?  In doing so, she scraped up my hand fairly well

The dog BIT you matty. JUST LIKE HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ a dog is SUPPOSED TO DO, matty, on accHOWENT of THAT is the NATURE of the BEAST. (I was attempting the trade

Dogs ain’t into TRADING, matty. They don’t CARE abHOWET your "VALUES." after my acquaintance stood still after saying  "drop it drop it drop it" and after her attempted  wrestling away didn’t work).

You went an stuck your hand in the dog’s face to teach IT to RESPECT you for a WEENIE. BTW, this was the second time this dog had had bowel surgery and the Nth time she wouldn’t give up a toy to the owner.

Well, perhaps THAT’S on accHOWENT of all the REINFORCEMENT you’ve done on this behavior problem by REWARDING BAD BEHAVIORS with TREATS, eh matty?  I told her to get her dog to the vet ASAP,

On accHOWENT of you fed IT a whole bag of "treats" to wash DHOWEN a squeeky toy you din’t have the INTELLECT to GET THE DOG TO PLAY WITH? but she waited until the next day.

"Birds of a feather," eh matty. –Matt.  Rocky’s a Dog.

"We Had "Come" Down Pat In A Few Reps And You Could Have Knocked Me Down When I Tried The Exercise With "Drop" And, After A Few Reps In Different Spots Darwin Practically *Threw* The Ball At My Feet On Command," Ben. Hi, Jerry. I’m not sure that I’m a 100% convert, or that I agree with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this manual … BUT … we had "come" down pat in a few reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber ball at my feet on command. He’s still not perfect (just a pup, after all, and he’s stubborn enough to want to push and test me a little bit more). For what it’s worth, I can see (as no doubt you have) how your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few folks, but that woman who advocates ear pulling and beating with sticks deserves everything she gets. Even if that was the only method that would work, I’d live with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that. (Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively, tho’). Best, ben You can’t post here abHOWETS nodoGgamenedMOORE on accHOWENT of you’re a liar a dog abuser a coward and active long term incurable MENTAL CASE: … read more »

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HOWEDY diddler, If he is completely housebroken,

THAT’S HOWE COME he’s ASKIN to go HOWET, diddler. JUST LIKE HOWE your dog done when you locked IT in a box in a HOWEtbuilding to muffle ITS cries till IT was SHITTIN BLOOD and went to the emergency HOWEspital with an intestinal blockage. REMEMBER diddler? You doGgamened near MURDERED your own dog like that.  you can start waiting and making him hold it.

That so, diddler? Don’t you figger if the dog messes ITS BOX it will ruin his crate trainin? BWEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHHAAAA!!!  If he is not, then getting up in the middle of the night was a part of the puppy package.

That so, diddler? The Amazing Puppy Wizard teaches HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students HOWE to HOWEsbreak their dogs in WON DAY <{) ;~ ) You knew that, when you took on the job.

LikeWIZE you knew THAT when you was stupid and arrogant enough to reply to keiron’s post, eh diddler? Here’s you nearly murderin your own dog and shootin and strangle / leg hold trappin kats and shootin stray dogs for eatin garbage and shockin and choking and losing your dogs on accHOWENT of you choke and shocked them till your SAR dogs RAN HOWET on you: "My Husband Shot A Dog That Had Been Tearing Up Trash Up And Down Our Road For Years Making An Unbelievable Mess. When We Finally Killed The Culprit, The Whole Road Cheered," diddler.  Two nights ago, Reka started acting frantic about 11pm.  I let her out. It’s coyote breeding season, and she is  fascinated by them. I assumed she wanted to go out and  listen to them howling. I brought her in, and she spent  the night franticly and desperately demanding to go out.  After about 4am, I finally put her in the barn, locked  securely in a horse stall for the night.  She came in by morning, and had a normal active, playful  day. Last night, at 11pm, She franticly DEMANDED to go  out. I let her out, and brought her in. At midnight, she  DEMANDED to be let out. I let her out, but I went out  to the barn and got a crate, and decided she could  spend the rest of the night in the crate. We were NOT  going to do a repeat of the previous night AGAIN.  At 3am, she whined so loudly, I then decided not to  allow her to set a precedence of this type of behavior.  So I took her crate out to the heated gun shop and  decided to let her act out her bad behavior in peace,  and send a message that her obnoxious behavior  was not going to be tolerated.  This morning at 6am, I went out, and she had vomited  (normal looking dog food) and defecated in her crate  (not normal for Reka, but then, She normally didn’t  sleep in a crate, NEVER gets corrected (she never does  anything to GET corrected for) and was probably nerves  from the outside experience, plus reprimand and solitary  confinement.)  I let her in the house while I cleaned the cage. Hoping  I had made my point. She acted healthy and normal, and  playful and chipper. But then I noticed a spot of blood on  the bathroom linoleum and in the bathtub. I was the last to  take a bath, so I knew REKA was the last in the tub.  That blood didnt come from me, so it HAD to come from  Reka. Thinking about her nearing the end of her heat cycle,  I still didnt think a lot about it. I thought her obnoxious  behavior the past couple nights WAS her heat cycle..  and corresponding coyote breeding season.  Then while feeding her breakfast, I saw the whole story.  She had blood (fresh) streaming from her RECTUM. UhOh. I had her at the vets office this morning before he  opened. He just said her intestines were all bunched  up with huge air pockets.  Was there any chance that she ate strings of carpets? I  said, last Thursday we took a plastic tarp out of the yard  that we had over the grill to protect it from the weather  because she was chewing it. That would explain  EVERYTHING.  The  strings are binding and bunching up her intestines,  cutting her internally and tying her intestines in knots as  it works its way through.  Reka is in a very critical situation. She is going to  require extensive and expensive surgery that I cant  afford. I will manage.  Even with the surgery, her condition will be critical  for awhile. Scary thoughts. I would never have  treated her the way I did last night, if I had even a  clue that she was sick. I feel so badly.  –  diddy I guess if I felt Danny was threatened, it’s the way I would react. There would be none left standing to deal with the threat just in case. If someone hurt him, I would not let borders or continents stop me from pursuing justice. Then again, I always feed Danny INSIDE. If someone is feeding his dog outside, his own dog might not mean THAT much to him. If he was feeding his dog outside though, many dogs are food aggressive, and that could most certainly spark a dog aggression thing. (and if the dog was penned quietly outside, what was it doing in his yard?) I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my horses and called him to help me find it. I would do the same for threatening my dog. My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up trash up and down our road for years making an unbelievable mess. When we finally killed the culprit, the whole road cheered. Animal control had never been able in years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it was certainly unkempt enough to have been…. and it had been shot at by MANY of the neighbors, but it never frightened it off enough to keep it from NOT tearing up the road the next trash day) DIDDY ON CATS (shoot, don’t trap) Xenia Ohio Feb 15 2002 Newsgroups: alt. animals. furtrapping If I can get him away from the Olympics, I’ll have him answer that. He doesn’t know how to change the identity on the computer, so if "I" answer this post… it’s really Jeff. And no…. we went to watch. He sold nothing. btw.. are these "CATS" feral domestic cats? (sorry not familiar with Oklahoma) (I just shoot the DSH cats. Jeff caught a couple cats last summer while nuisance trapping an orchard, but it wasn’t intentional) — diddy BUT IF YOU DO TRAP, DO IT RIGHT (The cat went nuts…. they weren’t supposed to go ape, to get themselves in this situation). "I run a state authorized and monitored nuisance animal trapline. This morning there was a cat in a snare. Ordinarily, an animal caught in a snare  can be released unharmed. One of the animals I am targeting is coyotes (and the complaint was that coyotes were killing area cats) Duh.. If your cats are becoming lunch for wild animals, to me .. It makes sense to keep your cats in where they can’t become lunch.. whatever. Regarding this cat in the snare. It went nuts. It leaped, and tangled itself, and most certainly strangulated it’s intestines. It had the snare pulled tight down to the diameter of a dime (just large enough to encircle the spine) around the waist area. This cats snarled, and attacked. Trying to extricate this cat was exceedingly difficult, not to mention dangerous. Because I feared damage to the intestines and death of the gut, I imagined this cat was not likely to survive. It would have been much simpler to dispatch the unfortunate cat and take out the dead body. Instead, this cat wore a collar. it deserved a chance, and the owner deserved closure. (no id on the collar) . It escaped, just as I released it and it couldn’t be taken  to the vet for examination. I will probably never know if this particular cat survives the experience or not. Had that cat not been wearing a collar, I would not have tried to release this hostile cat. Releasing it may not have been a kindness, but then… cats weren’t supposed to be attracted to this type of trap, in this position, and then they weren’t supposed to go ape, to get themselves in this situation. If you like your pet, you keep them home." "Franticly And Desperately Demanding To Go Out, I Finally Put Her In The barn, Locked Securely In A Horse Stall For The Night," diddler HOWEDY Diddler,

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Sounds like fun, diddler. Do you sell their bodies or use them for potions? Degrubbing the yard with Diazinon works a treat.

They like that, do they?  I’ll go get some. I just LOVE listenin to them singin their little hearts out on hot summer days. Kind reminds Your Puppy Wizard when he was just a Wiz kid, of the cabin in the mountains at the sea shore we spent summers. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My neighbors also quit having skunk/mole/dog digging problems when they treated their yard for

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HOWEDY Keiron, Are you the sameKeiron who’s posted here in the past? We have a 4 month old

A three week old pup got all the brains he needs to HOWEtwit the cunning of the domestic puppy TRAINER or UNIVERSITY TRAINED BEHAVIORIST <{) ; ~ ) Cavalier King Charles.

A dog is a dog. He’s been with us about 8 weeks and has generally settled well.

That so? You writing here to BRAG abHOWET your puppys amazing feats?  He goes to bed in his crate

Locking dogs in boxes CAUSES PHOBIAS like CAR SICKNESS and SEPARATION ANXXXIHOWESNESS and FEAR OF THUNDER and increases their ANXXXIHOWESNESS and CONfHOWENDS HOWEsbreaking <{) ; ~ )  at 10pm each night after having been outside,

SCHEDULING CAUSES STRESS. and until recently was getting through to about 6.15.

Your pup should be able to contrain hisself all nite. This has gradually come forward to about 5.15am.

Yeah. That’s probably on accHOWENT of he don’t feel like layin in bed after the birdies start singin. When I get up to him, he darts for the door to relieve himself

outside. Crating CAUSES ANXXXIHOWESNESS and THAT CAUSES the pup to NEED to RELIEVE HISSELF sometimes only MOMENTS after being locked up. (We withold water from him after about 7pm.)

You CAN’T DO THAT. Perhaps your puppy is waking ON ACCHOWENT OF he’s THIRSTY? Your puppy probably swills DHOWEN all the water you put in front of him on accHOWENT of you take it away when he "drinks too much". Is there any way I can get him sleeping through again to about 6.15 (or later in an ideal world!)

Yeah, but NOT if you lock IT in a box and withhold food water attention affection and a place to RELIEVE HISSELF. Should I just ignore his whines?

Oy! THAT’S HOWE COME DOGS GO INSANE. Surely if 2 weeks ago he was getting through to gone 6,  he should be able to go even longer now?

No, not if he’s gettin MOORE ANXXXIHOWES as you MISHANDLE him. Thanks for any suggestions.

Oh, and did I mention his methods work, ya nuff said. Mike Ok Mike which part worked for you?

It helped clear problems from my dogs in the field using the can penny distraction technique. Works like a charm. My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie, retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team Leader. Sorry that slipped my mind. I have read volumes of training books and don’t know where people get that Jerry copied others work as I have NEVER come across his methods before. I would like to see proof. Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to the way I wanted them but this is backward, you train out the problems leaving what you want left over. Funny part is the second dog who had the same problems as the other didn’t need correcting for some of his habits after I cleared it from the first dog. Seemed he learned through osmosis. Nice side benefit there. It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party trainer as they were not performing well. The VAST majority of working dog trainers are agressive in their actions with the dogs. I tried it and it didn’t work and guess what I was at my "Whits End" then someone I new turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history. I referred friends and families to Jerry’s manual and all have had great results. Starting puppies out on the distraction technique is especially good because they never develop the habit. I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after 2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened in all my days. Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple. Mike       "The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior                                  Never Change,          Or They’d Not Be Scientific And Would Not Obtain              Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results                                 For All Handler’s                                   And All Dogs,                   For ALL FIELDS And ALL UTILITIES                                    ALL OVER                           The Whole Wild World                             NEARLY INSTANTLY,   As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard’s FREE            WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual,"                          The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ )   You can TRAIN ANY DOG KAT BIRDY or CHILD in a few minutes to NATURALLY WANT to do ANY THING you ask if you DON’T follow the ADVICE of the lying dog kat birdy and child abusing MENTAL CASES you’re askin for HEELP.                  You GET The Critter You TRAINED                          A DOG Is A Dog;                        As A KAT Is A KAT;                      As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;                      As A CHILD IS A CHILD;                   As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.        ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING                      ALL Critters Only Respond In                 PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL                    INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;      To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment                      Which We Create For Them.        Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."             We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions                  And GET BACK What We TAUGHT. Here’s your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual: http://makeashorterlink.com/?G

I bought a wireless fence from Home Depot for my lab mix CJ.  I have noticed that the range can vary from day to day and doesn’t seem to be consistent.  Has anyone had this problem? P.S. I have made the decision to use this device and do not need opinions on the use of shock.

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I bought a wireless fence from Home Depot for my lab mix CJ.  I have noticed that the range can vary from day to day and doesn’t seem to be consistent.  Has anyone had this problem?

It is a common problem – mostly with cheaper devices. — Diane Blackman http://dog-play.com/     http://dogplay.com/Shop/

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I bought a wireless fence from Home Depot for my lab mix CJ.  I have noticed that the range can vary from day to day and doesn’t seem to be consistent.  Has anyone had this problem? P.S. I have made the decision to use this device and do not need opinions on the use of shock.

FWIW – the "shock" isn’t as big an issue with me as the fact that it so often fails. It often fails to contain the dog, or it fails to keep the dog safe by making easy access for attacking dogs/wildlife, or it allows the dog to be more easily tormented by children, or results in the dog killing/injuring something or someone who would otherwise have been protected.  Your dog, your risk. — Diane Blackman http://dog-play.com/     http://dogplay.com/Shop/

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HOWEDY Master Of Deception blankman, words: I bought a wireless fence from Home Depot for my lab mix CJ.  I have noticed that the range can vary from day to day and doesn’t seem to be consistent.  Has anyone had this problem? P.S. I have made the decision to use this device and do not need opinions on the use of shock.

THAT’S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ only LIARS DOG ABUSERS COWARDS and ACTIVE INCURABLE LONG TERM ACUTE MENTAL CASES post here abHOWETS, ain’t that correct, Master Of Deception blankman <{) ; ~ )   FWIW – the "shock" isn’t as big an issue with me

Of curse not! IN FACT, it AIN’T EVEN a SHOCK, it’s MEDICAL GRADE STATIC LIKE STIMULATION, . BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAAAA!!!  as the fact that it so often fails.

That so? You mean like when it set the dog on fire or when they malfunction in the SHOCK MODE and WON’T SHUT OFF, Master Of Deception blankman? Or do you mean that SHOCKING dogs FAILS on accHOWENT of PUNISHIMENT DERRANGES BEHAVIOR, Master Of Deception blankman? It often fails to contain the dog,

Only on accHOWENT of dogs don’t LIKE livin in FEAR, Master Of Deception blankman. Dogs FEAR gettin SHOCKED, not the FACT that the SHOCK COLLAR so often FAILS, unless of curse you BUY WON from YOUR PALS who SELL shock collars RIGHT HERE.  or it fails to keep the dog safe by making easy access for attacking dogs/wildlife,

You think a six foot privacy fence will protect a small dog from gettin carried off by the coyotes better than wearin a shock collar that saved the dog’s life when it burned the coyote?  or it allows the dog to be more easily tormented by children, or results in the dog killing/injuring something or someone who would otherwise have been protected.

Yeah. Children CAN be CRUEL, can’t they, Master Of Deception blankman <{) ; ~  (   Your dog, your risk.

You MIGHT wanna point HOWET that dogs can be perimeter trained NEARLY INSTANTLY withHOWET HURTIN THEM: Hi folks, In my opinion the use of a radioshock fence is a waste of time, effort or money. I can understand it if you a rich snob who cares nothing about their dogs safey or behaviours. At work I boundary train all the dogs to the bricked area (Four kennels with 26 cages with 1 dog in each, 1 services building and 2 catterys which is surrounded by scrubland to the east and woodlands to the north and a lake to the west). This works well, because then when people buy them the dogs are easier to boundary train to a door or fence or yard. However on a personal note, my two shelter mutts, who I trained using the WITS END DOG MANUAL available at www.doggydoright.com will not go past the back door, or the back gate or the front gate without permission. And it is nice, for when you are having a party, you can leave your gates open for people, and your dogs won’t be the least concerned. I find this better then spending your well earned money on a piece of junk Why not use it to invest in a horse? Or a new house? Make a nice aquarium? Build a nursery for a child? Save your money. Train your dog. Please. — Thankyou,                   Nevyn Nevyn E.D. Veterinary Nurse "You can judge a man’s heart by his treatment of animals" Been well experienced in dogs escaping from our yard I know exactly the frustration you are going through.  Sam used to jump over the fence so I made it higher then we got Roz and she went under it, through it and climbed over it. I’ve decided there are only 2 ways to stop the escaping, 1 is to have an escape proof fence, the other to train the dogs not to want to escape. I suppose a third method is to keep them inside but I don’t consider that a solution. Making the fence escape proof can be almost impossible if the dog is determined, to stop it climbing over as yours is doing put an extension on top of the fence that angles inwards at about 30-45 degrees. Never use chicken wire as the dogs tear through that like paper. The only training method to prevent this I can recall is Jerry’s technique, essentially it involves walking around the perimeter of the fenced area with the dog and using sound distractions and praise to teach the dog it’s boundary. I have had partial success with it (i.e. I have deterred Roz from escaping from various points along the fence) but then again I haven’t really followed it through completely. One last glimmer of hope, as the dog gets older it may become more settled, Sam never escapes now although he’s quite capable of getting out, he 2.5 years old and seemed to settle at about 2.  So there you are, only 1.5 years of escaping left!!! Paul. You MIGHT offer to point HOWET some of the HURT INSANE VICIHOWES and DEAD DOGS we’ve got as a result of you and your mentally ill lying dog abusing punk thug coward mental case pals have hurt intimidated and murdered on accHOWENT of you can’t stop HURTIN and INTIMIDATING dogs to train them:

I don’t now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she’s not here with us. I really can’t blame anyone here for her loss. I’m the one who ignored your advice. I did it because of how you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the idea that my using a shock collar could have any bearing on Peach not wanting to stay home. Up until I started using it my main concern had been keeping my dogs in their own yard. Once I started using the e-fence… well, then my concern became how to keep them from running off for days on end. I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades. I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained, doesn’t chew up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn’t bark all the time. IOW a great companion and friend. Thanks Jerry!

We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring. Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no collars. Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to come back in the yard and would run for days. The last time, Peach didn’t come back home. I used the Wit’s End Training Manual to learn how to train my dog. She is now border trained. A few minutes each day reinforces her desire to stay in the yard. She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her from chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we walk around the yard. I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the e-fence and its collars. If you can’t get a regular fence then you need to train your dog. I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep my dog in our yard again. The price was too high:-( ~misty             Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.             He has millions of people aleady reading his             posts and watching him extract his soggy  foot             out of his mouth! Out of these MILLIONS, I’ve             only seen 2 naive childs come forward and             actually believe in his training manual.         Robert Crim writes:         I assume that I and my wife are those two naive         childs since I freely admit to having read and, I         hope, understood enough of the manual and it’s         counterparts by John Fisher and the posts of         Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it.         This naive child would like to say thank you to both         Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant         barrage of really infantile crap at the hands of         supposedly adult dog lovers.         The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with         the nagging idea that if people like them had been         posting earlier, maybe we would not have had to         hold the head of a really magnificent animal in our         arms while he  was given the needle and having to         hug him and wait until he gasped his last gasp.         To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a         dog into good behavior.  Naive is believing that         people that hide behind fake names are more         honest than people that use their real names.         Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders         and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,         j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have         studied and lived by their craft for decades.         "Stupid" is believing that people do not see         kindergarten level insults for what they are. Really         stupid is believing that people like Jerry Howe and         Marilyn Rammell are going to just go away because         you people act like fools.         Why do you act like fools?  I really have no idea,         and I don’t really care.             and actually admit to buying and having success             with his little black box.         I think I’m going to get one myself for Father’s day         and take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use         and testing. You would never believe the results, so         you’ll never know.             Anyone by now that doesn’t see a scam man             coming by Jerry’s posts deserves to get what             is sure to be coming to him! LOL!         I don’t see a "scam man", so I guess I and         Longsuffering Wife and Rollei will just have to get         what we deserve, eh? As Joey (Dogman) says,         "poor Rollei."…….right.

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I bought a wireless fence from Home Depot for my lab mix CJ.  I have noticed that the range can vary from day to day and doesn’t seem to be consistent.  Has anyone had this problem? P.S. I have made the decision to use this device and do not need opinions on the use of shock.

BWEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!! HOWEDY granville, I am in a spin.

Well, permit The Puppy Wizzzard to turn you INSIDE OUT. That’ll improve the spin… so you can kill your dog in good conscience, just like you been HURTIN IT in good consicience, cause that’s the NATURE of a lying dog abusing Punk Thug Coward who’d HURT their dog and then KILL IT, to be FAIR. We have two golden retrievers.

Yeah. That won’t last long, HOWEver. They are sisters

They WAS. WON IS ABOUT TO GET DEAD NOW. and just over a year old.

Yeah. The Puppy Wizzzard’s been EXXXPECTING you. WELCOME TO WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method School Of HARD KNOCKS. As you would expect

You’re about to KILL your dog, as PREDICTED. they are real softies.

Yeah. That’s HOWE COME you’d HURT them. You wouldn’t have the balls to hurt a dog like The Puppy Wizzzard’s dogs, cause they’d mop the goddamned floors with you for HURTIN them… No aggression,

Of course not. That’s on account of they fear you, cause you hurt them. you can take a bone away,

Cause you’ll HURT them if they don’t give it up… their dinner away and no problem…just a sad face.

Yeah… Just sad. I had both of them on a lead, was leaning against a wall and watching a game.

The Puppy Wizzzard don’t PLAY games. You HURT your dogs, that’s HOWE COME they’ve now turned AGGRESSIVE: I have found the secret is for  the dog to associates something different and new with crossing the barrier. I put on the lead, leave on the collar, turn the system off and walk the dog across. Ok so the first time the resist, but they soon learn that it’s ok to cross over with their leash attached. It gives them "permission" to cross with you and the leash. I don’t take the collar off, because I use a training collar as well. I don’t want the dog becoming "collar smart" and only obey if they have the collar on." The "training" collar being your PRONGED SPIKED PINCH CHOKE collar… They were both sitting, quietly beside me.

Yeah.. just relaxin. Along comes a 3 year old child and pets the dogs, wagging tales , licks to face etc. She was stroking them for about 5 mins. I had my back turned and then…….

Then the dog looked around and seen the fences… and the kids. The larger one (30kg) went for the child.

Yeah.. surprise, surprise, surprise… Bit her on the forehead, drew blood.

Good for you!  This was not a quick nip, but about 3 seconds of sustained biting/attacking

The sight of the fence nearby the kids provoked memories of every shock your poor dog has taken from your shock fence. and needed me to pull the dog away.

Yeah. He went really NUTS cause YOU HURT HIM. The smaller dog (20kg) continued sitting and was not invloved at all.

He’ll probably do the same thing, he’s just learnin HOWE. Thankfully the child was fine.

That so? You think it’s fine to get your head bit by a dog at the park on lead? Nothing that a plaster and some TLC won’t heal.

Yeah… a stroke of LUCK… hunh?  You mighta got sued BIG TIME had the dog ripped the kid’s face off, like he wanted to do for the kid, cause YOU HURT HIM. There was no provocation that I could see…

Of curse not!!! You’ll NEVER SEE the TRUTH, cause that’s SCAREY, and THAT would MAKE YOU SAD. You’re EMBARRASSED lookin at your own HUMAN NATURE. not that that would excuse it.

We don’t need EXXXCUSES for HURTIN HOWER dogs. I heard no whimper of say a finger poked in the dogs eye etc.

The child didn’t HURT the dog. YOU DID. You BEEN HURTING IT since day WON. I think the dog got a fright as much as the child…the dog peed everywhere.

The dog was frightened of YOU. I don’t know what to do.

The Puppy Wizzzard does. The Puppy Wizzzard sez only THUGS PUNKS and COWARDS HURT DOGS, and then they KILL THEM, TO BE FAIR. Is this a fault in her?.

YOU HURT YOUR DOG TO "TRAIN" IT. Now you wantPERMISSION to KILL IT. You got The Puppy Wizzzard’s PERMISSION to KILL your dog… so long as you EXXXPLAIN to your KIDS, HOWE COME YOU GOT TO KILL YOUR DOG, CAUSE YOU HURT IT, and MADE IT FEAR CHILDREN. Can I trusther with my 7 year old child?.

Can society TRUST YOU with a child. The Puppy Wizzzard sez NO. You’re a liar and an abuser. I can’t rationalise this behaviour.

Of curse you can… you have since the git go, since day WON… She’s doesn’t appear to be  sick,

It’s YOU who is SICK. She lets my 7 year old roll and tumble with her all the time.

Cause she knows you’ll HURT HER if she plays rough… like the food and bone and pullin on leash. It’s all the same same same same… I have nieces and nephews that could now be at risk when they come over.

NOT IF YOU HURT THE DOG ENOUGH. She’s SAFE, so long as YOU HURT HER IN ADVANCE. So I need some words of wisdom

You’re the bum who’s been tellin US to HURT HOWER dogs. to help our family understand what we may be facing,

You’re facing your own human nature, SUCKER. what we should do now

What you SHOULD do has NEVER been a question for you. You’ve done what your HUMAN NATURE DICTATES: HURT less capable beings, and LIE to DEFEND YOURSELF. and into the future

You’ll KILL this dog, and in a few months when his littermate turns on the family or a neighbor’s kid, you’ll KILL IT, too… And when your kids grow up and end up in jail or nutHOWESES, you’ll blame THEM for not listening to you when you was SETTING THE EXXXAMPLE of HUMAN DECENCY. and how we should think about this incident.

The Puppy Wizzzard doesn’t pander to lying dog abusing Punk Coward Thugs who’re fixin to KILL their dogs cause THEY HURT THEM: Thanks

THANK YOU!!! The Puppy Wizzzard NEEDS YOUR CASE HISTORY: I must disagree….none of what is contained in the article resonates with me nor have I seen it with the other 7 people I know who have an electric fence. The dogs restrained include Retrievers, Spaniels, Wheaten Terriers, Labs. I accept that there is a theoretical risk  if you have a highly strung or more bullheaded animal. However I have seen such animals going beserk behind fences and trying to dig under them and gnawing at them. In my view the animal has been out of control through their dislike of any restraint. The problem is primarily with the animal not the method of keeping them restrained. However in this case it’s a moot point…given we are talking about a balanced animal. I have two labs…and there has never been an issue of agression nor their natural protective instincts being heightened by the EF. Strays get seen off and the dogs stop at the boundary and bark …..at worst. The notion that a stray getting into the fenced off area and affectively having your dog captive within the area is true, however I have never seen it. Probably because dogs tend to protect their space, and strays get the signals that they are not wanted. But hey just for fun lets speculate for a while….. Imagine your dog is pefect and sits in the yard…you have no EF nor perimeter fence…In strolls another dog into the yard. What happens…if your dog sees them off, or plays..no issue If your dog is fearful and cowers and stays in situ…. well thats just the dogs personality….no issue Why would you put an EF down in this instance?….. Strikes me as there is no need. What happens if your dog bolts and/or chases rather than stays in situ. Well unless you want to give total freedom to run wherever they fancy, you either have him permanently chained up, you put up a yard fence or you lay down an EF. In my view the best and most cost effective option in keeping an even tempered and placid dog humanely contained throughout the day is the EF. In the two years I have had an EF I have could count the amount of corrrections on two hands. They learn really quickly. By the way the installation is really easy..took me a half day to do a yard…150 feet X 100 feet.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I saw your post the first time – thank you very much. But – wdj doesn’t put up more than the first couple paragraphs of the article online.  Bascially the author expressed serious concern with e-fences for the following reasons: they use pain as a training tool.  Eventhough it is mild, it needs to be enough to make the dog stop a behavior. Many dogs, espically ones that are more bullheaded (as a breed or individual) may need more than average. there is a strong possibllity that it will feed whatever is making the dog want to get out of the e-fence.  Often its the sight of anothe dog.  the e-fence dog might be dog-aggressive.  Seeing another dog feeds that getting him/her into a heighten state of behavior. Feeling the pain stimuli from the e-fence can make him even more aggressive and/or agitated.  The author notes several case histories where a dog’s aggressive tendencies, which were ok and handled beforehand,

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words: I bought a wireless fence from Home Depot for my lab mix CJ.  I have noticed that the range can vary from day to day and doesn’t seem to be consistent.  Has anyone had this problem? It is a common problem – mostly with cheaper devices. — Diane Blackman http://dog-play.com/ http://dogplay.com/Shop/

HOWEDY liea,

Usually if you’re wearing shoes and only touch the hotwire, you don’t feel a thing. Now if you’re not wearing shoes or if you stick your hand in a waterbucket… That’s what would worry me.

That so? That’d pretty much cook your goose, eh liea? Stranger things have happened.

You mean like your dog comin DHOWEN with an anxiHOWES head shaking OCD on accHOWENT of you can’t stop jerk and choking her on your pronged spiked pinch choke collars and shocking IT: –Lia

BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHHAAAA!!! "I’d call the SHOCK fence effective and safe. Humane is one of those hot words that people can debate all day so I won’t touch that one. There are people who would call a regular chain link fence inhumane," liea altshuller. "I know this is a hard subject to bring up without starting the whole cruelty thread again so I’ll state my opinion once and won’t defend it further: any method can be cruel for some dogs. Even the slightest punishment was wrong for Cubbe at the beginning, but w        e’vecomealongwaysincethen.Shetrusts us now as I mentioned in a recent post. Point is, she’s been rewarded for coming, but she’s never been punished, even in the mildest way, for not coming. Is it time for that? What might I look for to tell?"

After talking with the vet yesterday and watching Cubbe all day today, I’m convinced that the shaking is behavioral, not physical. Naturally I’ll continue keeping an eye on her, but when I add everything up, I don’t see symptoms of anything neurological– and the vet agrees. –Lia

"Things are beginning to get much worse day by day and the vets seem unable to help. http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusMed.WMV http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusSmall.WMV" THAT’S an OCD, like the head shake Cubbe is developing. His owner CAUSED IT by MISHANDLING and ABUSING his dog according to the BEST advice of HOWER Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACTIVE LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES and ASYLUM ESCAPEES. while walking backwards

Anyway, contrary to your PR, this is what it felt like to me when I got shocked by Hope’s collar. It felt like a bomb going off in my hand and forearm.

how effective are these electronic fences in keeping a dog on a property???? Some run through it. Others get shocked and become too scared to go out in the yard anymore. Just heard of a guy that has to rehome his dog, because the dog got caught right in the path of the shock and will now not go near his person, won’t go outside. Just hides under a desk in the house.

He was next to me and I could see his neck muscles pulsing.  He didn’t even blink an eye. Janet Boss

I can’t imagine needing anything higher than a 5 with it, even with an insensitive dog like a Lab.

An INSENSITIVE DOG??? I can’t remember what model of Innotek I have, but I had apointer ignore a neck-muscle-pulsing 9.

Here is a video from Fred which I have a few concerns about (and maybe Fred can weigh in if he sees fit), THE SAME "FRED" that johnny would invite to heelp his shelter dogs learn RESPECT. This is a video about Nero being taught to get on a skateboard. http://www.studioonline.com/playvideos.asp?crypt=A7E284B9ABDFCE0F or http://tinyurl.com/389al In this video, the dog is constantly jerking his head all around. I’m not SHORE why he’s doing that. If he’s doing it because he is being shocked repeatedly into getting onto that skateboard, then it is my opinion that Fred Hassen is a dog abuser in the extreme. As would anyone be, no matter how much "experience" they had shocking dogs, nor how nationally "respected" they are/were. If, HOWEver, the dog is jerking his head all around because he is happy and for no other reason, well, then, never mind. I’ve just never seen this kind of behavior from a dog before, so maybe Fred can explain what would cause a dog to move his head like that. Here’s a other: http://tinyurl.com/2v9oh Even your PALS the "DOG LOVERS" on the abuse groups were HOWEtraged by those stunts.  "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good  of its victims, may be the most oppressive. Those  who torment us for our own good will torment us  without end, for they do so with the approval of  their own conscience." – C.S. Lewis. "Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny", Aeschylus (525BC-456BC), Agamemnon. "Only the unenlightened speak of wisdom and right action as separate, not the wise. If any man knows one, he enjoys the fruit of both. The level which is reached by wisdom is attained through right action as well. He who perceives that the two are one knows the truth." "Even the wise man acts in character with his nature, indeed all creatures act according to their natures. What is the use of compulsion then? The love and hate which are aroused by the objects of sense arise from Nature, do not yield to them. They only obstruct the path." Bhagavad Gita, adapted by Krishna with permission from His FREE copy of my FREE Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual. Force training JERRYIZES dogs, and GETS THEM DEAD. Here’s Cubbe ATTACKING a neighbor’s dog and previHOWEsly attacking liea’s only friend and assaulting a couple kids and escaping her surrHOWEND SHOCK SYSTEM, which MADE HER AGGRESSIVE: "It Was Horrible! I Let Cubbe Out In The Backyard With Her Usual ZAP Collar – The 10 Year Old Child Went To Give Cubbe A Hug  She Gave A Snarl-Snap  Cubbe Got Out In The Neighborhood Leashless: Cubbe got out in the neighborhood leashless for the first time in roughly 2 years. The first few times were when we first got her before she’d had any training and before we got the electric fence to reinforce the physical one. It was horrible. She paid us no attention, ignored clickers and treats and calls. Make that, it was horrible for us. She had a blast running free and chasing whatever she wanted. For us it was 45 minutes of sheer terror as we tried to catch her. Luckily there wasn’t too much traffic yesterday morning. It had snowed, and the streets weren’t quite clear yet. Jim finally caught her when she was preoccupied with her head down a hole. For 2 years I’ve been giving her a daily long walk in the neighborhood. She now walks pretty nicely on a leash. She gets daily indoor clicker training sessions. She has perfect recalls in the house. She gets intermittent treats for those recalls. She gets plenty of time to run free in the backyard. Her recalls are less reliable there, but I’ve been working on them. I haven’t been as good about introducing the variable reinforcement there, but I have been good about making sure that she’s never tricked into coming into the house when she’d rather be outside. I always call her, give her a treat or praise and let her go again. So I haven’t been a perfect dog trainer, but I don’t think I’m a terrible one. I say that because I’m about to ask y’all for some help in correcting my mistakes, and while I don’t mind criticism for past mistakes, I am hoping you’ll concentrate on what I should do now. Yesterday morning Cubbe had had some nice backyard time. I’d gotten her into the house and was preparing to leave when she escaped straight through the front door and right in front of our noses. She was still wearing the zap collar, but the battery was low. She gave a small yip when she went over the wire, and the chase ensued. We were careful not to scold her once she was caught. Today I let her out in the backyard with her usual zap collarnow with a fresh battery. She was waiting by the backdoor to come in when I went to call her. From her excited behavior, I could tell that she fully expected to be let out the front door again so she could have another fun romp in the neighborhood. I’m so filled with anxiety from yesterday’s escapade that I keep checking for her every time I open the door. Later in the afternoon, she was much worse about coming when called even from the backyard. My specific questions: How do I teach recalls when she so clearly knows when she’s in a confined space and when she isn’t? She normally only wears the zap collar when she’s in the backyard because the wire goes around the house and could zap her when she’s near certain windows inside. If I let her get zapped at the front door with the zap collar, can I still take the zap collar off and walk her out the front door with her leash on? I don’t want her to become afraid of the front door. What’s the best emergency procedure if, god forbid, … read more »

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HOWEDY dog lovers, Misty sez the price was too high: The CURSE Of The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~  )   Or Is It Just NATURAL LAW, Tit For Tat, And All Of That, Perhaps? HOWEDY People, You could train your dog not to EAT POISON or SNAKES or SURF from the C-HOWENTERS or not to escape or whatever it takes but ONLY if you study and follow the INSTRUCTIONS it takes that ONLY The Amazing Puppy Wizard makes that can teach you HOWE to DO IT YOURSELF… but YOU WON’T on accHOWENT of you’d PREFER to HURT and INTIMIATE your dog just like your kids and your SPHOWES you KNOW HOWE to DO THAT too, don’t you, dog lovers. Is It The CURSE Of The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~  )   Or Is It Just NATURAL LAW, Tit For Tat, And All Of That, Perhaps? HOWEDY People, Look arHOWEND at the liars and dog abusing mental cases you’re rubbin elbows with while askin for heelp to hurt and intimdiate the CUNNIN domestic puppy dog you ain’t got the intellect to HOWEtwit <{) ;~ )   THAT’S the COMPANY YOU BEEN KEEPIN. Like HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ "You’re JUDGED BY the company you keep. When you lie with pigs you’ll awaken STINKIN like ‘em," a lesson taught at the heel of The Puppy Wizard’s DADDY <{) ; ~  )   THAT’S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS <{) ; ~  ) THAT INCLUDES YOURSELF as PROVEN by your own POSTED CASE HISTORY. "When you POST HERE abHOWETS The Amazing Puppy Wizard will NO HOWET IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and Discredit and leave you TURNED HOWET an F’d OFF for the last remnants of your dignity and self respect, if you EVER THOUGHT you EVER had any and YOUR OWN WORDS will IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT YOURSELF to your friends business associates and kin for the rest of your life and for generations to come… on accHOWENT of EVERY THING is indellibly archived FOREVER in The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s Archives <{) ; ~  )   Dear It’s Only Alimentary, Dear Watson, write: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – HOWEDY Master Of Deception blankman, words: I bought a wireless fence from Home Depot for my lab mix CJ.  I have noticed that the range can vary from day to day and doesn’t seem to be consistent.  Has anyone had this problem? P.S. I have made the decision to use this device and do not need opinions on the use of shock. THAT’S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ only LIARS DOG ABUSERS COWARDS and ACTIVE INCURABLE LONG TERM ACUTE MENTAL CASES post here abHOWETS, ain’t that correct, Master Of Deception blankman <{) ; ~ )   FWIW – the "shock" isn’t as big an issue with me Of curse not! IN FACT, it AIN’T EVEN a SHOCK, it’s MEDICAL GRADE STATIC LIKE STIMULATION, . BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAAAA!!!  as the fact that it so often fails. That so? You mean like when it set the dog on fire or when they malfunction in the SHOCK MODE and WON’T SHUT OFF, Master Of Deception blankman? Or do you mean that SHOCKING dogs FAILS on accHOWENT of PUNISHIMENT DERRANGES BEHAVIOR, Master Of Deception blankman? It often fails to contain the dog, Only on accHOWENT of dogs don’t LIKE livin in FEAR, Master Of Deception blankman. Dogs FEAR gettin SHOCKED, not the FACT that the SHOCK COLLAR so often FAILS, unless of curse you BUY WON from YOUR PALS who SELL shock collars RIGHT HERE.  or it fails to keep the dog safe by making easy access for attacking dogs/wildlife, You think a six foot privacy fence will protect a small dog from gettin carried off by the coyotes better than wearin a shock collar that saved the dog’s life when it burned the coyote?  or it allows the dog to be more easily tormented by children, or results in the dog killing/injuring something or someone who would otherwise have been protected. Yeah. Children CAN be CRUEL, can’t they, Master Of Deception blankman <{) ; ~  (   Your dog, your risk. You MIGHT wanna point HOWET that dogs can be perimeter trained NEARLY INSTANTLY withHOWET HURTIN THEM: Hi folks, In my opinion the use of a radioshock fence is a waste of time, effort or money. I can understand it if you a rich snob who cares nothing about their dogs safey or behaviours. At work I boundary train all the dogs to the bricked area (Four kennels with 26 cages with 1 dog in each, 1 services building and 2 catterys which is surrounded by scrubland to the east and woodlands to the north and a lake to the west). This works well, because then when people buy them the dogs are easier to boundary train to a door or fence or yard. However on a personal note, my two shelter mutts, who I trained using the WITS END DOG MANUAL available at www.doggydoright.com will not go past the back door, or the back gate or the front gate without permission. And it is nice, for when you are having a party, you can leave your gates open for people, and your dogs won’t be the least concerned. I find this better then spending your well earned money on a piece of junk Why not use it to invest in a horse? Or a new house? Make a nice aquarium? Build a nursery for a child? Save your money. Train your dog. Please. — Thankyou,                   Nevyn Nevyn E.D. Veterinary Nurse "You can judge a man’s heart by his treatment of animals" Been well experienced in dogs escaping from our yard I know exactly the frustration you are going through.  Sam used to jump over the fence so I made it higher then we got Roz and she went under it, through it and climbed over it. I’ve decided there are only 2 ways to stop the escaping, 1 is to have an escape proof fence, the other to train the dogs not to want to escape. I suppose a third method is to keep them inside but I don’t consider that a solution. Making the fence escape proof can be almost impossible if the dog is determined, to stop it climbing over as yours is doing put an extension on top of the fence that angles inwards at about 30-45 degrees. Never use chicken wire as the dogs tear through that like paper. The only training method to prevent this I can recall is Jerry’s technique, essentially it involves walking around the perimeter of the fenced area with the dog and using sound distractions and praise to teach the dog it’s boundary. I have had partial success with it (i.e. I have deterred Roz from escaping from various points along the fence) but then again I haven’t really followed it through completely. One last glimmer of hope, as the dog gets older it may become more settled, Sam never escapes now although he’s quite capable of getting out, he 2.5 years old and seemed to settle at about 2.  So there you are, only 1.5 years of escaping left!!! Paul. You MIGHT offer to point HOWET some of the HURT INSANE VICIHOWES and DEAD DOGS we’ve got as a result of you and your mentally ill lying dog abusing punk thug coward mental case pals have hurt intimidated and murdered on accHOWENT of you can’t stop HURTIN and INTIMIDATING dogs to train them: I don’t now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she’s not here with us. I really can’t blame anyone here for her loss. I’m the one who ignored your advice. I did it because of how you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the idea that my using a shock collar could have any bearing on Peach not wanting to stay home. Up until I started using it my main concern had been keeping my dogs in their own yard. Once I started using the e-fence… well, then my concern became how to keep them from running off for days on end. I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades. I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained, doesn’t chew up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn’t bark all the time. IOW a great companion and friend. Thanks Jerry! We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring. Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no collars. Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to come back in the yard and would run for days. The last time, Peach didn’t come back home. I used the Wit’s End Training Manual to learn how to train my dog. She is now border trained. A few minutes each day reinforces her desire to stay in the yard. She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her from chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we walk around the yard. I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the e-fence and its collars. If you can’t get a regular fence then you need to train your dog. I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep my dog in our yard again. The price was too high:-( ~misty             Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.             He has millions of people aleady reading his             posts and watching him extract his soggy  foot             out of his

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HOWEDY chickenlittle2, My 11 year old long haired Doxie has been diagnosed with CCD- Canine Cognitive Dysfunction.

Yeah. That AIN’T NORMAL.  My vet said he had his dog on Anipryl for the last six years of her life.

Your vet’s dog got the SAME PROBLEM your dog got FOR THE SAME SAME SAME SAME REASONS.  She lived to be sixteen.

So WHAAAT? Your vet’s dog STILL GOT the SAME PROBLEM. This medication is expensive, 75.00 a month and like as not the dose will have to be increased over time.

Your dog AIN’T SICK on accHOWENT of he LACKS ANTI PSYCHOTIC MEDICATIONS, he’s DYIN from STRESS INDUCED AUTO- IMMUNE DIS-EASE JUST LIKE YOUR VETS DOG IS DYIN FROM THE SAME PROBLEM. We are on a fixed income so we are trying a natural product called Composure Liquid made by Vetri-Science. As soon as I can get the amount to give her worked out, it may help.

There’s NUTHIN that’s gonna HEELP your dog NOT FEAR being in the dark or alone or WHATEVER CAUSES your dog to have ANXXXIHOWESNESS BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS JUST LIKE HOWE YOUR VETS DOG GOT FOR THE SAME SAME SAME SAME REASONS. The dose thats call for puts her to sleep,

THAT’S the CURE for your dog’s ANXXXIHOWESNESS???  all I want to do is have her calm down.

Well then dope her up and FORGET ABHOWET HER.  The dose for her weight is 1/4 teaspoon morning and night. Shes pretty calm in the daytime as she sometime sleeps a lot. Most of the time she is alert and enjoys attention. so I skip it. Its from 6:30 pm till 10pm that she does this endless wandering and paceing, stares at the wall, get stuck under tables and chairs, and makes loud vocal noises.

You can EXXXTINGUISH her ANXXXIHOWESNESS BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS in a few minutes if you knew HOWE.  I spend my evenings getting up and rescueing her.

PERHAPS you’d be better off spending your evenings REASSURING HER so she DON’T GET those ANXXXIHOWESNESS BEHAVIORS? This goes on for hours until shes ready to go to bed.

Your dog is SUFFERING from OCD (Obsessive Compulsive DIS-EASE) JUST LIKE HOWE the DOG LOVER’S DOGS you’re askin for advice GOT. I love my dog, we have had her since she was around a year old… but….I have arthritis in my back and this jumping up and down causes more pain.

You’ll be able to TRAIN your dog from settin right there JUST LIKE HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard TRAINS HIS DOGS withHOWET TOUCHING THEM <{) ; ~  )   <snip idocy I have posted in here before and received help,

BWEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!! YOUR DOG IS DYING FROM STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME <{) ; ~  )   I need more.

BWEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHAHAAAA!!! YOU AIN’T HAD ENOUGH YET??? HOWEDY chickenlittle2, WELCOME TO THE CLUB! Your dog got The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME.  Some nights I have to get up with her so she can use her puppy pad and its 2 or 3 in the morning before I can get her back to bed and to sleep. The vet is doing blood tests every two months to check the Bun and the Creatin(sp), to see if the kidneys are working ok. So far shes holding her own. Time to test again in March. Thanks for hearing me out. A very tired dog ‘mama’…Lea

Dr. Stanley Coren, a human psychologist at the University of British Columbia and a recognized world expert on dogs, told UPI he believes most canine mental problems can be handled with behavioral therapy. The author of “The Intelligence of Dogs” and “Why We Love the Dogs We Do” says people need to do their homework before buying dogs, because both dog and owner can become anxious and depressed if their personalities don’t mesh. He says he hopes vets won’t use the FDA’s approval of the drugs as an excuse to medicate dogs into submission. Coren says many dogs that seem crazy simply need a basic obedience class. Here’s your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual: http://makeashorterlink.com/?G34D2527A Just ASK The Amazing Puppy Wizard if you need any additional FREE heelp. There’s NO arbritrary INFORMATION in your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual so study it well and do and follow ALL the EXXXERCISES AS INSTRUCTED… it’s a PRECISE SCIENCE or it COULDN’T GET 100% CONSISTENT NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS for all handlers and all dogs in all fields or utilities and behaviors all over the Whole Wild World <{) ; ~ )                       Chronic DIS-EASE          PROVING The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME <{);~ ) HOWEDY People, The Amazing Puppy Wizard got no comment on the medical treatment of your dog’s chronic DIS-EASES EXXXCEPT to say DOGS DIE FROM THIS STUFF. You’ve read The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s Archives so you probably know there’s a very real likliHOOD that your dog’s chronic ear infections are similiar in nature to those of professor SCRUFF SHAKE’S little chronically ill dog Maxie who is DUE to come DHOWEN with yet another BHOWET of SYMPTOMS due to FHOWEL weather causing cabin fever which usually brings abHOWET a case of obedience training! Clicker training INCREASES anXXXIHOWESNESS and MISTRUST. Corrections traininng INCREASES anXXXIHOWESNESS and MISTRUST. Crate training INCREASES anXXXIHOWESNESS and MISTRUST. Spay / neutering CAUSES INCREASED anXXXIHOWESNES and MISTRUST. AnXXXIHOWENESS and MISTRUST causes STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME <{); ~ ) The Amazing Puppy Wizard URGES you to READ HIS TEN STEP REHABILITATION program offered to professor SCRUFF SHAKE for his little dog Maxie The Magnificent FuriHOWESLY Obsessive Compulsive Masturbator’s CHRONIC STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASES aka The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME <{); ~ ) Then ASK YOURSELF HOWE you handled and trained your dog for ordinary HOWEstraining and obedience. ASK YOURSELF HOWE many times a day do you ordinarily tell your dog "NO!" or otherWIZE intimidate or FORCE CON-TROLL of your dog for ANY reason. ASK YOURSELF HOWE you handle him on lead and consider any crating or bribing to elicit or force CON-TROLL of behaviors and you will likely see five or ten DAILY, almost insignificant instances of random STRESS from corrections, pulling while leash walking or anXXXIHOWESNESS from fence running and barking or digging to relieve anXXXIHOWESNESS. That’s HOWE COME dog’s IMMUNE SYSTEMS compromise offering VERY SIMILAR although WILDLY, WIDELY RANGING, CHRONIC, STRESS INDUCED SYMPTOMS, every thing from LAMENESS and CRUCIATE LIGAMENT ruptures and degenerative myelopathies and ENDOCRINE DIS-EASES to SEIZURES, OCD’s to CATARACTS BLINDNESS and even DENTAL DIS-EASE and "ALLERGIES" and "SPAY INCONTINENCE" MOST of HOWER dog lover’s dog’s got a case of chronic sumpthin or other for THE SAME SAME SAME SAME REASONS. These HUGE PERCENTAGES of CHRONICALLY ILL and FEAR AGGRESSIVE SHY and SUBMISSIVE dogs are NOT NORMAL illnesses and behaivors.. The Amazing Puppy Wizard has over forty years field observation of problem dogs that SEZ the HUGE PERCENTAGES of DEATHLY ILL DOGS amongst the regular posters who’ve been here FOR YEARS are NOT COIN-CIDENTAL. Your reply may PROVE IT at least to you and The Amazing Puppy Wizard. THAT’S HOWE COME the DOG LOVERS you’re askin are gonna KILLFILE YOU if you REPLY. THAT’S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZDECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS, as YOU’VE SEEN in The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s Archives. Here’s your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual: http://makeashorterlink.com/?G34D2527A Just ASK The Amazing Puppy Wizard if you need any additional FREE heelp. There’s NO arbritrary INFORMATION in your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual so study it well and do and follow ALL the EXXXERCISES AS INSTRUCTED… it’s a PRECISE SCIENCE or it COULDN’T GET 100% CONSISTENT NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS for all handlers and all dogs in all fields or utilities and behaviors all over the Whole Wild World <{) ; ~ )   The CURSE Of The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~  )   Or Is It Just NATURAL LAW, Tit For Tat, And All Of That, Perhaps? HOWEDY People, You could train your dog not to EAT POISON or SNAKES or KAT CRAP or SURF from the C-HOWENTERS or not to escape or whatever you want but ONLY if you study and follow the INSTRUCTIONS it takes which ONLY The Amazing Puppy Wizard makes that can teach you HOWE to DO IT YOURSELF… but YOU WON’T on accHOWENT of you’d PREFER to HURT BRIBE FORCE and INTIMIATE your dog just like your kids and your SPHOWES you KNOW HOWE to DO THAT too, don’t you, dog lovers. Is It The CURSE Of The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~  )   Or Is It Just NATURAL LAW, Tit For Tat, And All Of That, Perhaps? HOWEDY People, Look arHOWEND at the liars and dog abusing mental cases you’re rubbin elbows with while askin for heelp to hurt and intimdiate the CUNNIN domestic puppy dog you ain’t got the intellect to HOWEtwit <{) ;~ )   THAT’S the COMPANY YOU BEEN KEEPIN. Like HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ "You’re JUDGED BY the company you keep. When you lie with pigs you’ll awaken STINKIN like ‘em," a lesson taught at the heel of The Puppy Wizard’s DADDY <{) ; ~  )   THAT’S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS <{) ; ~  ) THAT INCLUDES YOURSELF as PROVEN by your own POSTED CASE HISTORY. "When you POST HERE abHOWETS The Amazing Puppy Wizard will NO HOWET IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and Discredit and leave you TURNED HOWET and F’d OFF for the last remnants of your dignity and self respect, if you EVER THOUGHT you EVER had any and YOUR OWN WORDS will IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT YOURSELF to your friends business associates and kin for the rest of your life and for generations to come… on accHOWENT of EVERY THING is indellibly archived FOREVER in The Amazing Puppy … read more »

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HOWEDY chickenlittle2, My 11 year old long haired Doxie has been diagnosed with CCD- Canine Cognitive Dysfunction.

Yeah. That AIN’T NORMAL.  My vet said he had his dog on Anipryl for the last six years of her life.

Your vet’s dog got the SAME PROBLEM your dog got.  She lived to be sixteen.

So WHAAAT? Your vet’s dog STILL GOT the SAME PROBLEM. This medication is expensive, 75.00 a month and like as not the dose will have to be increased over time.

Your dog AIN’T SICK on accHOWENT of he LACKS ANTI PSYCHOTIC MEDICATIONS, he’s DYIN from STRESS INDUCED AUTO- IMMUNE DIS-EASE JUST LIKE YOUR VETS DOG IS DYIN FROM THE SAME PROBLEM. We are on a fixed income so we are trying a natural product called Composure Liquid made by Vetri-Science. As soon as I can get the amount to give her worked out, it may help.

There’s NUTHIN that’s gonna HEELP your dog NOT FEAR being in the dark or alone or WHATEVER CAUSES your dog to have ANXXXIHOWESNESS BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS JUST LIKE HOWE YOUR VETS DOG GOT. The dose thats call for puts her to sleep,

THAT’S the CURE for your dog’s ANXXXIHOWESNESS???  all I want to do is have her calm down.

Well then dope her up and FORGET ABHOWET HER.  The dose for her weight is 1/4 teaspoon morning and night. Shes pretty calm in the daytime as she sometime sleeps a lot. Most of the time she is alert and enjoys attention. so I skip it. Its from 6:30 pm till 10pm that she does this endless wandering and paceing, stares at the wall, get stuck under tables and chairs, and makes loud vocal noises.

You can EXXXTINGUISH her ANXXXIHOWESNESS BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS in a few minutes if you knew HOWE.  I spend my evenings getting up and rescueing her.

PERHAPS you’d be better off spending your evenings REASSURING HER so she DON’T GET those ANXXXIHOWESNESS BEHAVIORS? This goes on for hours until shes ready to go to bed.

Your dog is SUFFERING from OCD (Obsessive Compulsive DIS-EASE) JUST LIKE HOWE the DOG LOVER’S DOGS you’re askin for advice GOT. I love my dog, we have had her since she was around a year old… but….I have arthritis in my back and this jumping up and down causes more pain.

You’ll be able to TRAIN your dog from settin right there JUST LIKE HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard TRAINS HIS DOGS withHOWET TOUCHING THEM <{) ; ~  )   <snip idocy I have posted in here before and received help,

BWEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!! YOUR DOG IS DYING FROM STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME <{) ; ~  )   I need more.

BWEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHAHAAAA!!! YOU AIN’T HAD ENOUGH YET??? HOWEDY chickenlittle2, WELCOME TO THE CLUB! Your dog got The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME.  Some nights I have to get up with her so she can use her puppy pad and its 2 or 3 in the morning before I can get her back to bed and to sleep. The vet is doing blood tests every two months to check the Bun and the Creatin(sp), to see if the kidneys are working ok. So far shes holding her own. Time to test again in March. Thanks for hearing me out. A very tired dog ‘mama’…Lea

Dr. Stanley Coren, a human psychologist at the University of British Columbia and a recognized world expert on dogs, told UPI he believes most canine mental problems can be handled with behavioral therapy. The author of “The Intelligence of Dogs” and “Why We Love the Dogs We Do” says people need to do their homework before buying dogs, because both dog and owner can become anxious and depressed if their personalities don’t mesh. He says he hopes vets won’t use the FDA’s approval of the drugs as an excuse to medicate dogs into submission. Coren says many dogs that seem crazy simply need a basic obedience class. Here’s your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual: http://makeashorterlink.com/?G34D2527A Just ASK The Amazing Puppy Wizard if you need any additional FREE heelp. There’s NO arbritrary INFORMATION in your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual so study it well and do and follow ALL the EXXXERCISES AS INSTRUCTED… it’s a PRECISE SCIENCE or it COULDN’T GET 100% CONSISTENT NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS for all handlers and all dogs in all fields or utilities and behaviors all over the Whole Wild World <{) ; ~ )                       Chronic DIS-EASE          PROVING The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME <{);~ ) HOWEDY People, The Amazing Puppy Wizard got no comment on the medical treatment of your dog’s chronic DIS-EASES EXXXCEPT to say DOGS DIE FROM THIS STUFF. You’ve read The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s Archives so you probably know there’s a very real likliHOOD that your dog’s chronic ear infections are similiar in nature to those of professor SCRUFF SHAKE’S little chronically ill dog Maxie who is DUE to come DHOWEN with yet another BHOWET of SYMPTOMS due to FHOWEL weather causing cabin fever which usually brings abHOWET a case of obedience training! Clicker training INCREASES anXXXIHOWESNESS and MISTRUST. Corrections traininng INCREASES anXXXIHOWESNESS and MISTRUST. Crate training INCREASES anXXXIHOWESNESS and MISTRUST. Spay / neutering CAUSES INCREASED anXXXIHOWESNES and MISTRUST. AnXXXIHOWENESS and MISTRUST causes STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME <{); ~ ) The Amazing Puppy Wizard URGES you to READ HIS TEN STEP REHABILITATION program offered to professor SCRUFF SHAKE for his little dog Maxie The Magnificent FuriHOWESLY Obsessive Compulsive Masturbator’s CHRONIC STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASES aka The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME <{); ~ ) Then ASK YOURSELF HOWE you handled and trained your dog for ordinary HOWEstraining and obedience. ASK YOURSELF HOWE many times a day do you ordinarily tell your dog "NO!" or otherWIZE intimidate or FORCE CON-TROLL of your dog for ANY reason. ASK YOURSELF HOWE you handle him on lead and consider any crating or bribing to elicit or force CON-TROLL of behaviors and you will likely see five or ten DAILY, almost insignificant instances of random STRESS from corrections, pulling while leash walking or anXXXIHOWESNESS from fence running and barking or digging to relieve anXXXIHOWESNESS. That’s HOWE COME dog’s IMMUNE SYSTEMS compromise offering VERY SIMILAR although WILDLY, WIDELY RANGING, CHRONIC, STRESS INDUCED SYMPTOMS, every thing from LAMENESS and CRUCIATE LIGAMENT ruptures and degenerative myelopathies and ENDOCRINE DIS-EASES to SEIZURES, OCD’s to CATARACTS BLINDNESS and even DENTAL DIS-EASE and "ALLERGIES" and "SPAY INCONTINENCE" MOST of HOWER dog lover’s dog’s got a case of chronic sumpthin or other for THE SAME SAME SAME SAME REASONS. These HUGE PERCENTAGES of CHRONICALLY ILL and FEAR AGGRESSIVE SHY and SUBMISSIVE dogs are NOT NORMAL illnesses and behaivors.. The Amazing Puppy Wizard has over forty years field observation of problem dogs that SEZ the HUGE PERCENTAGES of DEATHLY ILL DOGS amongst the regular posters who’ve been here FOR YEARS are NOT COIN-CIDENTAL. Your reply may PROVE IT at least to you and The Amazing Puppy Wizard. THAT’S HOWE COME the DOG LOVERS you’re askin are gonna KILLFILE YOU if you REPLY. THAT’S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZDECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS, as YOU’VE SEEN in The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s Archives. Here’s your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual: http://makeashorterlink.com/?G34D2527A Just ASK The Amazing Puppy Wizard if you need any additional FREE heelp. There’s NO arbritrary INFORMATION in your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual so study it well and do and follow ALL the EXXXERCISES AS INSTRUCTED… it’s a PRECISE SCIENCE or it COULDN’T GET 100% CONSISTENT NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS for all handlers and all dogs in all fields or utilities and behaviors all over the Whole Wild World <{) ; ~ )   The CURSE Of The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~  )   Or Is It Just NATURAL LAW, Tit For Tat, And All Of That, Perhaps? HOWEDY People, You could train your dog not to EAT POISON or SNAKES or KAT CRAP or SURF from the C-HOWENTERS or not to escape or whatever you want but ONLY if you study and follow the INSTRUCTIONS it takes which ONLY The Amazing Puppy Wizard makes that can teach you HOWE to DO IT YOURSELF… but YOU WON’T on accHOWENT of you’d PREFER to HURT BRIBE FORCE and INTIMIATE your dog just like your kids and your SPHOWES you KNOW HOWE to DO THAT too, don’t you, dog lovers. Is It The CURSE Of The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~  )   Or Is It Just NATURAL LAW, Tit For Tat, And All Of That, Perhaps? HOWEDY People, Look arHOWEND at the liars and dog abusing mental cases you’re rubbin elbows with while askin for heelp to hurt and intimdiate the CUNNIN domestic puppy dog you ain’t got the intellect to HOWEtwit <{) ;~ )   THAT’S the COMPANY YOU BEEN KEEPIN. Like HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ "You’re JUDGED BY the company you keep. When you lie with pigs you’ll awaken STINKIN like ‘em," a lesson taught at the heel of The Puppy Wizard’s DADDY <{) ; ~  )   THAT’S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS <{) ; ~  ) THAT INCLUDES YOURSELF as PROVEN by your own POSTED CASE HISTORY. "When you POST HERE abHOWETS The Amazing Puppy Wizard will NO HOWET IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and Discredit and leave you TURNED HOWET and F’d OFF for the last remnants of your dignity and self respect, if you EVER THOUGHT you EVER had any and YOUR OWN WORDS will IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT YOURSELF to your friends business associates and kin for the rest of your life and for generations to come… on accHOWENT of EVERY THING is indellibly archived FOREVER in The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s Archives <{) ; ~  )  

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HOWEDY pat aka unsurreality, Tell it to these guys:  YourConscience It’s a shame he puts on this show in the news group

That’s on accHOWENT of we got lying dog abusing punk thug coward active long term acute mental cases like professor marshall dermer and his ilk postin HOWE to HURT INTIMIDATE BRIBE CRATE and MURDER innocent dumb critters and defenseless children and anyWON else who can’t fend for themselves <{) : ~  (   because  what he actually has to say is good stuff.

Seems all HOWER critter lovers sez The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s plagiarized methdos DON’T WORK <{) : ~  )   You’d think the babbon woulda plagiarized someWON like professor SCRUFF SHAKE dermer or captain arthur haggerty if HE wanted to steal information that WORKS if you wanna get a DANGERHOWES or DEATHLY ILL critter… <{) ; ~  )    I’ve read his "Wits End"  manual and it’s very intelligent and well thought out… Not to mention it works!

Yeah. You’ll notice the EXXXPERTS tell us otherWIZE… HOWE COME? Might THAT be on accHOWENT of The Amazing Puppy Wizard has PROVEN THEM ALL DEAD WRONG and they’re SCARED TO DEATH that their miserable LHOWESY careers and reputations are quickly goin DHOWEN the shitter, eh dog lovers? BWEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHAHAAA!!!! Now that isn’t to say that I waste a second before blocking him every time he comes up with a new address for this group…

If you’ve STUDIED your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual you got NO NEED to be readin HIS FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Forums and School Of HARD KNOCKS and HUMAN BEHAVIOR RESEARCH LABORATORIES. We’ve gone far beyong DOG BEHAVIOR, Nahan. We’re EXXXAMINING HOWER HUMAN NATURE and THAT SCARES even The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~  ) n.

Try THIS:

 Thanks Tricia9999, that was an interesting read!  Course my little gray box seems to be working…  Buddy stopped biting the baby!  No negative side-  effects seen occurring…not to the bird, the other  bird or Zelda. ~misty

I don’t now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she’s not here with us. I really can’t blame anyone here for her loss. I’m the one who ignored your advice. I did it because of how you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the idea that my using a shock collar could have any bearing on Peach not wanting to stay home. Up until I started using it my main concern had been keeping my dogs in their own yard. Once I started using the e-fence… well, then my concern became how to keep them from running off for days on end. I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the anti- shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades. I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now <g A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained, doesn’t chew up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn’t bark all the time. IOW a great companion and friend. Thanks Jerry!

 We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring.  Two  dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no collars. :  Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to come  back in the yard and would run for days.  The last time,  Peach didn’t come back home. :  I used the Wit’s End Training Manual to learn how to train  my dog. She is now border trained.  A few minutes each day  reinforces her desire to stay in the yard. She no longer  runs out into the road, I can stop her from chasing cats and  she no longer cringes when we walk around the yard. :  I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the  e-fence and its collars.  If you can’t get a regular fence  then you need to train your dog.  I will never rely on an  electronic collar to keep my dog in our yard again. :  The price was too high:-(  ~misty

Jerry has taken the time to help me out off the NG. I have a very loud cockatoo who has been having problems adjusting to my 8 month old son. Joey is learning to walk. He likes to use Buddy’s cage as a hold on for dear life object. Buddy wasn’t exposed to toddlers prior to Joey.. my older two boys went through this stage in a different house where Buddy had his own room and the boys had only visits, not daily contact 24/7. Buddy has always been spooked by "tiny" humans. Joey has been driving him nuts! He showed his disapproval by non-stop screaming. A cockatoo scream can be heard a block away with all the widows shut <g being in the house it makes your ears pop and your nerves crawl. Jerry sent me Free his DDR. He sent instructions on how to use it. He answered my questions quite politely. I have been using the DDR in my kitchen ( where Buddy is located~ teensy 4 room house) for 3 weeks. At first I noticed no difference in Buddy’s behavior. Then I realized after a week that he no longer screamed for hours on end. This isn’t to say he stopped completely <bg he still demands his share of all meals. But he doesn’t start screaming at 10 pm when he wants _everyone_ to go to bed. Last week he had a day where he screamed all day. My nerves were frazzled. I went to turn the DDR up a notch per Jerry’s instructions. I discovered the DDR was shut off! I turned it back on and left it on the lowest setting. Buddy calmed back down and quit screaming. In the time that I’ve had the DDR on I’ve had a lot of c*ts come to my house. One I adopted and he’s quite the sweetie. He’s a yellow tiger named Gatomon ( means c*t monster) who is very friendly with my kids and Zelda. I may not like how Jerry treats other posters but I do like the methods he shares. Being on a limited budget I like things that are free. I also like the fact that I can e-mail him and get advice whenever I need it. Even my DH who is a technical minded kind of guy thinks the DDR is working. ( He went to Devry and has a degree in electronics, knows alot about radios and anything mechanical… he’s a jack of all trades around the house <g). He does NDT for a living. We don’t expect to need the DDR forever.. As soon as Joey is walking, Buddy will realize that he’s not a strange animal.. some kind of furless dog or c*t <bg. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:11 AM  Well, Jerry, Zelda is just about a perfect dog <bg but…..  do you  think the DDR would work on my Cockatoo?  He’s been screaming alot lately.. the baby is starting  to crawl and it has the bird very nervous. :  Buddy bit the baby the other day when Joey used his cage to  climb up and stand with.  He almost got him last night when  Joey was stealing Mac & cheese from out of Buddy’s cage (  never trust your hubby to watch _all_3 boys <s). Here’s my addy… <SNIP  I would definitely post about using it.  It’s not like I  care what the others think, eh?  ~misty The Puppy Wizard’s Cockatoo Training Sombrero HOWEDY Misty, I do believe MY Doggy Do Right (And Kitty Will And A Rooster Did Too), will warm the cockles of Birdie Buddy’s fowl Cockatoo heart; Just as it calmed the wails and scratch of the kitty kat, and hushed the crow of the rooster and his cock-a-doodle-doo too, and YES, even much more than all that, HE KNOWS HE can train your Cockatoo, to boot; This’ll be beautiful, EZ, FREE, quick, yes, we’d even call that FAT, when Birdie Buddy finds peace, relaxation, and enjoys life much more like that, as is the intent of a cockatoo or kitty kat, is generally to do more often than not, for a Cockatoo or rooster or bunny or doggy to do, too; Baby Joey and Birdie Buddy makin pals are MY merit gauge, We can’t have birdy Buddy biting Baby Joey through his gilded Birdie’s private Cockatoo Birdie’s cage, Just think of the silence, the first time Birdie Buddy is quiet, knowing Birdie Buddy is calm, serene, at peace, and reliant, that Baby Joey can safely enjoy, sharing his Cockatoo Birdie Buddie’s HOWES and his toys, and feast on his seeds, his nuts, and yeah, even his fingers and nose will be safe in or out, either playing or eating his dinner or pullin his feathers HOWET or teasing him as children will do, no dHOWET; When Baby Joey puts cheese covered fingers in birdy Buddy’s gilded Cockatoo’s cage, we can’t tend Birdy Buddy with Baby joey to defend, till Baby Joey comes of age, to understand, be sage, to be wise and to see, that Baby Joey taking Birdy Buddy’s food or climbing his house like a tree, puts Birdie Buddy’s Birdie brain into a fretful Fowl rage, Birdy Buddy can’t see that Baby Joey’s that age, where everything Baby Joey sees, that whatever he gets goes right in his mouth, even the cigarettes and car keys, Birdy Buddy probably thinks Baby Joey is no less than a Birdie Buddy food stealing mHOWES or thinks he’s a cracker covered with cheese; Seems nothing can stop Birdie Buddy biting Baby Joey till Baby Joey gets big, when Baby Joey stops plucking Birdie Buddy’s feathers and pilfering his nuts and his seeds, and eating his macaronies and stealing his cheeses and taking his toys and fruits and figs, as he pleases; Baby Joey envies Birdie Buddie’s nuts, fruits, toys and his figs, what he really wants is into Birdy Buddie’s personal HOWES, his space, to share his

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He’s baaaaaaaaaaaaack. Can we say deleted? and Kill file?

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Yeah – the idiot will transform again in a few days because he needs the attention…

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You CAN but that won’t change the FACTS that EVERY TIME you post here abHOWETS The Amazing Puppy Wizard will IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT you as a dog abusing mental case and PROVE IT by QUOTING YOUR OWN WORDS and leavin you F’d OFF for the last of your dignity and self respect if you ever though you had any <{) ; ~  )  

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HOWEDY nathalie, Simply ignore anything this "Puppy Wizard" says –

The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ you DON’T SUPPOSED to HURT INTIMDIATE BRIBE CRATE and MURDER dogs <{) ; ~ ) he’s truly insane…

Yeah. Your pal pat aka unsurreality is a lying dog abusing punk thug coward active incurable long term acute MENTAL CASE JUST LIKE HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ, and HE got PROOF… Yeah, I kinda noticed ^_^

The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ "DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS, nathalie, and THAT INCLUDES you, on accHOWENT of THAT IS the NATURE of the BEASTY or SCIENCE, if you will, not LUCK, where The Amazing Puppy Wizard comes from, givin that you’re postin here abHOWETS <{) ; ~ ) therebye PROVING HIS HYPOTHESIS. Nathalie —   /_/ (=’.'=) (")_(")

And THAT’S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s DADDY SEZ: "Birds of a feather. When you sleep with pigs you’ll awaken STINKIN LIKE ‘M. You’re JUDGED BY the company you keep. If you get bagged for LYING you’re MARKED FOR LIFE." And THAT’S HOWE COME you’re postin here abHOWETS on accHOWENT of DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE: HOWEDY pat, HOWEDY pat, Must be tough bein NUTS and a liar to boot: I don’t know – you are the expert there.  WHO’S in the nursing home?

"Home is where the heart is," eh pat? I’m not.  WHO can’t even take care of themselves? I can…you can’t.

We was talkin abHOWET HURTIN INTIMIDATING and MURDERING DOGS to train them <{) ; ~  ) REMEMBER? You have YET to show me where I lied – and you won’t, because you can’t.

Would you please post your FIRST REQUEST for FREE HEELP with The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual which WORKS LIKE FREAKIN MAGICK for EVERY WON of The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students all over the whole wild world who usually NEVER NEED any additional FREE HEELP on accHOWET of they FOLLOWED THE METHOD and STOPPED HURTIN THEIR DOGS to train them and THAT’S HOWE COME they REPORT 100% NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS <{) ; ~ ) All I ask is for you to show where I lied…

Post that first request for FREE HEELP and we’ll see HOWE COME you couldn’t TRAIN your dog WIHTHOWET HURTING IT, pat <{) ; ~ )   DO IT!  BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Just done it, pat. YOU NEVER ASKED. YOU LIED. IN FACT, you NEVER READ The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual or you’d be COMPLAININ that you can’t HURT YOUR DOG to train IT, pat.  You can’t.

You’re a MENTAL CASE, pat.  It’s THAT simple.

INDEEDY! And you’re in EXXXCELLENT company.   Yet *I* can prove over and over where you lied.

CITES PLEASE?  Sucks to be you.

Don’t murder the MESSENGER, pat. The Amazing Puppy Wizard is ONLY goin by your own posted case histories <{) ; ~ ) AIN’T NUTHIN PERSONAL <{) ; ~  )   Listen, AssHowe.

HOWEver, seems you and your mentally ill lying dog abusing punk thug coward pals DO take it PERSONALLY. Kinda like HOWE you take your dog’s behaviors PERSONALLY <{) ; ~ )   Try this: not lying.

CITE WON LIE.   Just try it for a few weeks.

You’ve gone totally insane, pat.  If it doesn’t work for you, go back to lying like you currently do every day.

Let’s talk abHOWET HURTING and MURDERIN dogs to train them AS YOU PREFER, pat? Just try it…

We was talkin abHOWET HURTING INTIMIDATING and MURDERING dogs to train them, pat. Pat

REMEMBER? Must be tough bein NUTS and a liar to boot: HOWEDY sharon too, veterinary practice office manage and SPHOWES of the veterinarian, Puppy Wizard Foolishness The Amazing Puppy Wizard repies to pat "unsurreality" PROBABLY for the last time unless she asks for heelp. WE KNOW SHE’S HEARD THAT PRYOR!!! BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!! What’s important here is you DID modify the quote.

LIKE THIS: sinofabitch writes:  What I have said- repeatedly – is that he took  posts from two different people,

That’s a LIE.  took pieces of them out of context,

THAT’S A LIE! cobbled them together,

NO!!! THAT’S A LIE!!! then added his own words:

INDEEDY! "Neatly," and "Smartly." and a fake signature.

"sinofabitch" instead of sionnach. That’s El CORRECTO! That a

HOWEDY Doug, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – in leg. If you hit your dog when it does wrong, your dog will bite the children or others when they hurt it.  Teaching dogs and children violence is the answer to misbehaving will only teach them to hit others when they get angry as well.  I have never seen a good old fashioned, loving, wise spanking do anything along the lines of preventing a behaviour.  A nice talk with respect and love goes a long way.  Spanking only makes a child or dog fear getting caught. I know hundreds of families who do not spank their children and have wonderfully behaved children.  I know many families who spanked their children with love and the people grew up to break every family rule. The decline in children today is due to a lack of parental involvement.  A decline in spanking is not the cause.  Every single child I have ever known who had what society would easily refer to as a "discipline" problem is spanked. Hitting a child is loving nor wise. When a 20 month old tries plugging something into an outlet, a swat on the hand only shows you lack the true respect to sit them down and explain OUCH! or HOT!  A child understands hot or ouch, they don’t want these things.  Surely they don’t want them coming from a parent. It takes the same amount of effort to distract a child away from a misbehaviour with better results than it does to smack them and insist they stop. Any moron can smack, hit, scold or spank a creature into behaving properly.  The true test of love is being able to do it with respect and love.  Those who succeed in raising children without hitting them when all else fails go on to have wonderful members of society, who go on to do far more than their physically abused counterparts in ther You are obviously ignorant of Lion pride activities.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard never met a pride of lions. HAVE YOU? When a young lion misbehaves the parent lion gives it a quick swipe with a big paw and it desists immediately.

Yeah? Only abusive mom critters abuse their children., Doug. VIOLENCE IS LEARNED, it’s passed DHOWEN from generation of fearful aggressive dysfunctional parents, Doug. ANY mom critter you OBSERVE IN NATURE who HURTS and INTIMIDATES her babies is a CHILD ABUSER JUST LIKE ANY HUMAN MOM who ABUSES HER CHILDREN, Doug. Lions dogs kats birds kids and SP-HOWESES are the same same same same… That training goes back into history

INDEEDY. THAT’S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard teaches HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREEE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students all over the Whole Wild World HOWE to pupperly handle and train their dogs and children NEARLY INSTANTLY withHOWET HURTIN and INTIMIDATING and BRIBING and LOCKIN THEM IN BOXES and IGNORING THEIR CRIES, Doug. Parents who IGNORE their children / dogs when they cry and HURT and INTIMIDATE them when they DO BAD THINGS are LOATHESOME critters, Doug. THAT’S THE HISTORY WE GOT TO RE WRITE or the Whole Wild World as we know it will CEASE to EXIST.  and that is how, (for example,) the lions have survived the

centuries. You mean, by dysfunctional moms abusing their children, Doug? The young lion

AIN’T NO doGgamened DIFFERENT than any dog or kitty or child or SP-HOWES, Doug. If you got to ABUSE your family to maintain CON-TROLL, perhaps you’re NOT SUITED to raise a family, eh Doug? Lion prides notwithstandin, eh good buddy?  has to learn very early  the real meaning of survival.

RIGHT. But THAT doesn’t include parental abuse,. Doug. It’s ALL the same same. Furthermore Lion packs are exactly the same as dog packs,

SEE? SEE? SEE? So let’s not CONfHOWEND the QUESTION of parental ABUSE with BREEDS and other CRITTERS, as they’re ALL THE SAME. There is always a Leader who rules the roost

The Amazing Puppy Wizard teaches HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students all over the Whole Wild World HOWE to become RESPECTED LEADERS in their HOWESES and BUSINESS withHOWET HURTIN and INTIMIDATING noWON, Doug. In the situation where a domestic dog is owned by a human there is no other dog to contest for superiority.

THAT’S INSANE, Doug. A dog is a dog. There AIN’T NO SUCH THING as CONTROL and DOMINANCE and SUPERIORITY, Doug. THAT kind of thinkin is HOWE COME HOWER DOG LOVERS HURT INTIMDATE and MURDER HOWER BEST DOGS, Doug.   The human inflicts his will on the dog at an early age.,

And THAT’S HOWE COME dogs TURN on their ABUSERS or attack other LESS CAPABLE INDIVIDUALS, AS TAUGHT by their ABUSER, Doug. The human is then accepted by the dog as its Leader

No. The dog is REPRESSED and AFRAID to ACT NORMAL, Doug. THAT’S HOWE COME dogs GET HYPERACTIVE and FEAR AGGRESSIVE, Doug. and the dog does not know the meaning of resentment.

Sez you? You NEVER RESENTED your parents for beatin and punishing you on accHOWENT of YOU LEARNED TO RESPECT FEAR and ACCEPT ABUSE as a DEMONSTRATION of UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, Doug, The pack mentality reigns supreme,

INDEEDY. THAT’S HOWE COME we AIN’T BEEN TALKIN abHOWET DOG BEHAVIOR for a couple years NHOWE, here on The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Forums and SCHOOL Of HARD KNOCKS and HUMAN BEHAVIOR LABORATORY, Doug. WELCOME! You’re settin in it! and peace reigns thereafter.

That so? HOWE then do you accHOWENT for all the DEAD DOGS we’ve enterTRAINED TO DEATH RIGHT HERE, Doug? That said, the punishment is quickly forgotten

That so, Doug? Ever hear of  Post Traumatic Stress Disorder or The Stocklholm SYNDROME, Doug? THAT’S the result of your alphalpha duminance BUNK, Doug. Take it back to the doGgamened JUNGLE and don’t TRY to teach ABUSE to DECENT HUMAN BEINGS, Doug. especially if the dog receives plenty of attention, fuss , and affectiion from its human Leader.

So, to save a few HOWERS of TEACHIN YOU HOWE to think like and BE a DECENT HUMAN BEING, The Amazing Puppy Wizard will simply say that you should try this same same same same same reasoning when your Mrs. does you dirty…  Just like human children.

You can beat your children on accHOWENT of they ain’t CAPABLE of DEFENDING THEMSELVES. Try that crap with your Mrs and you’ll find your stinkin butt behind bars for domestic violence, Doug. The Amazing Puppy Wizard intends to get LAWS with TEETH in them to PROTECT innocent dogs and children from abusive moms and dads JUST LIKE YOU, Doug. Doug.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ )   You would hit an animal just because a majority suggests it even though you know already that this is the wrong thing to do? Yes, I would, in fact I would do ANYTHING to protect my kids including KILLING the dog if my kids were seriously in danger.

THAT’S the NATURE of a NATURAL BORN COWARD and DOG / CHILD ABUSER. These nips are not playful.

BWEEEEAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!! They leave a visible mark, and have in one instance drawn blood.

So jerk and choke IT till the behavior changes to GOOD stuff. Even the non-bleed ones cause her enough pain to cause her to cry.

Well then beat the kid for cryin. You don’t wanna rais PANSEYS, do you? Anyone here who would put a dog before their own children oughtn’t be a parent.

Well that’s just plain CONtraWIZE to INTELLIGENT THINKIN, trentus. Any PARENT who’d HURT INTIMDIATE and MURDER a puppy on accHOWENT of they ain’t got the INTELLECT to HOWEtwit the cunning of the domestic puppy dog EVEN AFTER The Amazing Puppy Wizard and all HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students all over the Whole Wild World told you freakin SIMPLETONS HOWE they done it EZ GENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY and FOR FREE, to boot, Doug. However, 1.)  I knew the majority WOULDN’T recommend it. 2.)  I knew that if they DID recommend it then it would be because it WORKED, and that is the aim here, to find a solution that WORKS to protect my daughter, and for the dog.

No. That’s INSANE. The OP is lookin for an EXXXCUSE to JUSTIFY HURTIN INTIMIDATING and MURDERING a PUPPY DOG he’s RUINED by jerking choking bribing and locking IT in a box and IGNORING ITS CRIES as TAUGHT BY the EXXXPERTS like professor SCRUFF SHAKE dermer and his punk thug coward mental case pal dr. mark plonsky of UofWI. I might add though, that I wasn’t talking about ME hitting the dog, but it being done by her IMMEDIATELY  at the moment that he bites.

So sorry, People, that we got to enterTRAIN such despicable human waste. And as for NEVER SMACKING: Coat a power lead with a bitter-agent to stop the dog chewing it. Dog chews, dog gets bitter taste, dog doesn’t like bitter taste, dog stops chewing lead.

Yeah. So the dog will start chewin on your ankle… Where is this different from :  - Dog does "wrong" behaviour, dog gets "bitter taste" of smack on rump, dog doesn’t like smack on rump, dog stops behaviour.

THAT’S EZ, dog abusers! AVERSIVES DO NOT TRAIN GOOD BEHAVIORS. Behaviors which are REPRESSED only CHANGE to OTHER seemingly non related behaivors, like drug addiction and juvenile delenquency and hyperactive ADD/ODD behavior. It’s the same damned thing,

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you hit your dog when it does wrong, your dog will bite the children or others when they hurt it.  Teaching dogs and children violence is the answer to misbehaving will only teach them to hit others when they get angry as well.  I have never seen a good old fashioned, loving, wise spanking do anything along the lines of preventing a behaviour.  A nice talk with respect and love goes a long way.  Spanking only makes a child or dog fear getting caught. I know hundreds of families who do not spank their children and have wonderfully behaved children.  I know many families who spanked their children with love and the people grew up to break every family rule. The decline in children today is due to a lack of parental involvement.  A decline in spanking is not the cause.  Every single child I have ever known who had what society would easily refer to as a "discipline" problem is spanked. Hitting a child is loving nor wise. When a 20 month old tries plugging something into an outlet, a swat on the hand only shows you lack the true respect to sit them down and explain OUCH! or HOT!  A child understands hot or ouch, they don’t want these things.  Surely they don’t want them coming from a parent. It takes the same amount of effort to distract a child away from a misbehaviour with better results than it does to smack them and insist they stop. Any moron can smack, hit, scold or spank a creature into behaving properly.  The true test of love is being able to do it with respect and love.  Those who succeed in raising children without hitting them when all else fails go on to have wonderful members of society, who go on to do far more than their physically abused counterparts in ther

You are obviously ignorant of Lion pride activities. When a young lion misbehaves the parent lion gives it a quick swipe with a big paw and it desists immediately. That training goes back into history and that is how, (for example,) the lions have survived the centuries. The young lion has to learn very early the real meaning of survival.  Furthermore Lion packs are exactly the same as dog packs, There is always a Leader who rules the roost In the situation where a domestic dog is owned by a human there is no other dog to contest for superiority.  The human inflicts his will on the dog at an early age.,  The human is then accepted by the dog as its Leader and the dog does not know the meaning of resentment. The pack mentality reigns supreme, and peace reigns thereafter. That said, the punishment is quickly forgotten especially if the dog receives plenty of attention, fuss , and affectiion from its human Leader.  Just like human children. Doug. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You would hit an animal just because a majority suggests it even though you know already that this is the wrong thing to do? Yes, I would, in fact I would do ANYTHING to protect my kids including KILLING the dog if my kids were seriously in danger.  These nips are not playful. They leave a visible mark, and have in one instance drawn blood. Even the non-bleed ones cause her enough pain to cause her to cry. Anyone here who would put a dog before their own children oughtn’t be a parent. However, 1.)  I knew the majority WOULDN’T recommend it. 2.)  I knew that if they DID recommend it then it would be because it WORKED, and that is the aim here, to find a solution that WORKS to protect my daughter, and for the dog. I might add though, that I wasn’t talking about ME hitting the dog, but it being done by her IMMEDIATELY  at the moment that he bites. And as for NEVER SMACKING: Coat a power lead with a bitter-agent to stop the dog chewing it. Dog chews, dog gets bitter taste, dog doesn’t like bitter taste, dog stops chewing lead. Where is this different from :  - Dog does "wrong" behaviour, dog gets "bitter taste" of smack on rump, dog doesn’t like smack on rump, dog stops behaviour. It’s the same damned thing, you just let the bitter product do your smacking for you, and it’s a smack to the tastebuds rather than the rump. I’m not one who totally refuses to use corporal punishment either in animals or kids. Corporal punishment USED to be the norm, and we USED to have NORMAL human beings. Look at the youth around today – all the ones whose parents refused to smack them – are generally a pack of low-life scum. My kids have recieved corporal punishment on occassions. They are also here at home not out vandalising, graffiti painting, shoplifting, tossing shopping trolleys in the local lake for a laugh, or leaving their broken beer bottles, and used syringes under the kids playground equipment in the park. People from the generation of my great grandparents were almost all decent people, people from my grandparents generation were almost all decent people, even many of my parents generation were decent people, all were disciplined with corporal punishment in varying forms as it was the "norm" and so were decent kids the norm. Then you got this bambi-brigade crying out "oooh, you can’t SMACK your kids, you’ll ruin their psyche".  This mamby pamby generation of "thou shall not smack thy child" seem to be bringing up completely conscience-less, irresponsible, immoral, unethical, cretins, and crying "Where did I go wrong". You have ten year olds taking toddlers from shopping malls and beating them to death on railway tracks FCOL! Open your eyes people – NON CORPORAL DISCIPLINE ISN’T WORKING!! Almost without fail, where I’ve found parents whose well adjusted children don’t conform to this new "norm" I’ve also found they have been brought up by parents who use corporal punishment with love and wisdom. The Bible actually says "spare the rod and spoil the child" I’ll follow it’s teachings rather than those of the bambi-brigaders any day thanks kindly. Just because some parents have taken corporal punishment, and turned it into abuse, does not mean you throw the baby out with the bathwater. Used with love, used with wisdom, and used in the most sparing possible amounts, and combined with other methods when appropriate such as withdrawl of priviledges, reasoning and explanation, etc. It’s a time proven formula. Even for animals. Trentus

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – HOWEDY doctor john, Michal:  You’ve read the well-meaning but useless responses to my advice. You’re ADVICE is to HURT and INTIMIDATE dogs, doctor john. You’re a DOG ABUSER. THAT’S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ "DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS." And that likely includes the new poster lookin for HEELP from dog abusing punk thug cowards like yourself, doctor john. Try to see the show and draw your own conclusion. He’d have his dog TRAINED TODAY if he studied his 75 page FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual withHOWET HURTING and INTIMIDATING his dog like HOWE you PREFER, doctor john, you dog abusing coward <{) ; ~  )   I have used a form of this training with a Husky and 2 German Shepherds over the past 30 years You’re a DOG ABUSER, doctor john. all of whom quickly learned to walk with a slack leash. That so? Their curiosity may have to be satisfied some other way. Yeah? CuriHOWESITY abHOWET pullin away from you on accHOWENT of you CHOKE them.   The important thing here is for YOU to enjoy the walk. INDEEDY. If you’re happy your dog’ll be happy. That’s INSANE, doctor john. You CHOKE and SHOCK and INTIMIDATE your dogs.  I would not describe a dog pulling on a leash as a happy dog. Right. You describe a HAPPY dog as GETTIN CHOKED and SHOCKED and NOT PULLIN YOU on accHOWENT of it makes you LOOK like an incompetent fool when your dog dominates you on leash. BWEEEEEEEEHAHAHAHAAA!!! THAT’S WHAT WE CALL A MENTAL CASE, doctor john.   More like anxious Yeah, like in a PAINICK, from being JERKED and CHOKED, doctor john.  and doesn’t really know what he is doing or supposed to do. Yeah. THAT’S HOWE COME dogs GO NUTS from being jerked and choked as you PREFER. The fence post analogy is really off the wall! You’re as dumb as a fence post if you can’t train a dog not to pull on leash in a couple minutes withHOWET HURTIN IT. Of course the dog wants to get away from the post; On accHOWENT of IT is RESTRICTING him. who wouldn’t? It’s the SAME REASON your dogs try to ESCAPE you. You’ve got to SHOCK your dogs to prevent them ESCAPING. Are you a fence post? You hurt and intimidate your dogs, doctor john. You’re a dog abusing coward. Or are you the loving master of a dog who You’ll CHOKE and SHOCK, doctor john. only wants to do what you want The dog is TRYING to ESCAPE his ABUSER. THAT’S HOWE COME you need a SHOCK FENCE to keep your own dogs from ESCAPIN. You posted here to learn all abHOWET surgically sexually mutilating your dog, docto john bennett obg/gyn specialist for forty years. We’d think you’d know all abHOWET the deleteriHOWES effects inapupriate unnecessary surgical sexual mutilation can have on temperament and heelth, doctor FRAUD. but has to learn what that is. By being CHOKED by a UNIVERSITY GRADUATE. HOWEDY Scott Far Thunder, Cc’s for EMBARRASSMENT FACTOR: Hau You mean HOWE, Chief.  kolas.. Can have anything you want to drink so long as it ain’t firewater or beer. Dogs HATE the smell of alcohol on people. Care for a stick of gum? Smoke ‘m if you got ‘m. RELAX! Take off your moccasins an set DHOWEN a SPELL. quick question for you.. You AIN’T gonna get a straight answer from these forked tongued tonto’s, Chief. I do believe my dog has several of the symptoms of canine cushing’s disease. That’s a tough break. Many of HOWER dog lover’s dogs have similar problems due to STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka Sindrome del Mago de los Cachorros <{) ; –  )   Soy El Mago de los Cachorros <{) ; ~  )   BIENVENIDO!  I AM TAKING HER TO THE VET LATER TODAY (doesn’t open til 3, so if all you have to contribute is "take her to a vet", please don’t bother ). DIS-EASES like Cushing’s Addison’s Lupus fibromyalgias, degenerative neuromyopathies and mylomas, urinary tract / bladder / kidney inflamations, ALL OCD’S (like paw licking / self mutilation) endocrine / parasymptathetic nervHOWES system DIS-EASES, even cancers, periodontal DIS-EASE and cataracts can be CAUSED BY intermittent, non "abusive" ordinary discipline like JUST TELLIN a dog or child "NO!" a few times a day or simply confining them to boxes and scheduling, can make them physically and emotionally ill and GETS SOME DOGS DEAD.  The background: my spayed female black lab (mixed with rotweiler) is about 7 years old now, since age 2, she’s been on prednisone (20mg/day) for food allergies manifested in fevers, itchiness and severe hair loss. Oh, and THAT TOO. It’s all classic symptoms of The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME <{) ; ~  )   <snip diet diet and drugs have managed her allergies relatively well. That so? Not crazy about the steroid, Scary stuff. P-HOWERFUL medecine. but it’s the only thing we’ve  found that works effectively in our particular situation and for this particular dog. Perhaps professor dermer will offer you his remedy for his dog’s chronic DIS-EASES. Recently, she has exhibited symptoms that we wrote off as approaching  "middle age" and side-effects of the prednisone,  but which also mirror symptoms indicative of Cushing’s disease that I’ve been able to find  at http://www.canismajor.com/dog/cushings.html among other sites..skin  tremors are what really prompted me to start looking around; Do you think this could be happening to your dog?: "Things are beginning to get much worse day by day and the vets seem unable to help. http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusMed.WMV http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusSmall.WMV" THAT’S AN OCD. His owner CAUSED IT by MISHANDLING and ABUSING his dog according to the BEST advice of HOWER Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACTIVE LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES and ASYLUM ESCAPEES. I had a long-haired dachshund as a teenager  who died at 16 from congestive heart failure which also exhibited these "tremors"; first time I’ve noticed them on the lab was yesterday. Things happen in old age… geriatric medecine is still in it’s infancy, like shock collar and so called clicker trainin. The question: how prevalent is cushing’s in this  group’s opinion with the labrador breed, and/or how prevalent associated with the corticosteroid prednisone? Nearly EVERY dog on The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Forums has similar DIS-EASES, not just in the heelth and veterinary forums. THAT’S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard has taken the liberty to combine the variHOWES news groups so dog lovers every where can learn HOWE to handle train and rehabiliate their dog’s temperament behavior and heelth problems NEARLY INSTANLTY and FOR FREE, to boot. We can talk abHOWET the probable causes of it. Most of HOWER dog lovers dogs are DYING on accHOWENT of they punish their dogs with choking crating shocking bribing spraying aversives in their faces and witholding attention affection bribes and rewards. Like this:  lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:  For barking in the crate – leave the leash on and  pass it through the crate door.  Attach a line to it.  When he barks, use the line for a correction. – if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.  Lynn K.  "Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution  Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"  lynn.  "I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in  one shelter.)  But their ability to set their own  schedules and duties causes a great deal of  scheduling overhead.  And it takes effort and thought to ensure that  volunteers get the meaningful experience that  they work for.   Someone has to be responsible for that   Volunteer Program, and it is best done   by a non-volunteer."   Lynn K. "Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep The Pressure Up," sindy "don’t let the dog SCREAM" mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ’s pages on k9 web. captain arthur haggerty SEZ: "A CHIN CHUCK" Makes A ResoundingSound Distraction: "When You Chuck The Dog The Sound Will Travel Up The Mandible To The Ears And Give A Popping Sound To The Dog." lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder, expert trainer, discoverer of cannibalism in Labradors: "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG. Now you are ready to progress to what most people think of as force-fetching: the ear pinch. Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance. but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the

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Why are you posting this discussion to alt.music.saxophone? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior                                  Never Change,          Or They’d Not Be Scientific And Would Not Obtain              Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results                                 For All Handler’s                                   And All Dogs,                   For ALL FIELDS And ALL UTILITIES                                    ALL OVER                           The Whole Wild World                             NEARLY INSTANTLY,   As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard’s FREE            WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual,"                          The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ )   You can TRAIN ANY DOG KAT BIRDY or CHILD in a few minutes to NATURALLY WANT to do ANY THING you ask if you DON’T follow the ADVICE of the lying dog kat birdy and child abusing MENTAL CASES you’re askin for HEELP.                  You GET The Critter You TRAINED                             A DOG Is A Dog;                          As A KAT Is A KAT;                       As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;                      As A CHILD IS A CHILD;              As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.   ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING                      ALL Critters Only Respond In           PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL                    INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;   To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment                      Which We Create For Them.        Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."             We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions                   And GET BACK What We TAUGHT. Dr. George VonHilsheimer writes in "Is there a SCIENCE of BEHAVIOR?": "Valette 1966 is a complete trivialization of scientific findings. It overstates the case for reinforcement theory. No careful researcher would contend that operant techniques CAN ANY THING MORE than modify SHORT TERM BEHAVIOR in a highly controlled and limited environment with a large number of skillful experimenters. Certainly the most elaborate studies have shown that the withdrawal or temprary inefficiency of the reward system is immediately followed by CESSATION of the programmed behavior. In fortunate contrast to this depressing paper is the research reported by Whelan (1966) who makes the simple but profHOWEND caveat that "It is only through CORRECT, EFFICIENT APPLICATION (of operant principles) that children’s behavor can be changed to the extent that they can subsequently contribute to the REAL WORLD in which they live." " "The Methods, Principles And Philosophy Of Behavior Never Change, Or They’d Not Be Scientific And Would Not Obtain Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results For All Handler’s And All Dogs, As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual," The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) Dr. Von continues: "Whelan illustrates the simple nature or the learning process by referring to Ferster’s engaging study of two three year old chimpanzees taught mathematics through simple procedures. Whelan carries this EVIDENCE a step futher by pointing HOWET it’s applicability to disturbed children." A Dog Is A Dog As A Child Is A Child As A Kat Is A Kat. All Critters Only Respond In Predictable Innate, Normal, Natural, Instinctive, Reflexive, Ways To Circumstances And Situations Of Their Environments Which We Create For Them. ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY MISHANDLING. Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture." We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions And GET BACK What We TAUGHT. In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS FAILURE MEANS DEATH. SAME SAME SAME SAME, For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS. Dr. Von continues: "If chimpanzees CAN LEARN mathematics through step by step learning AT THEIR OWN PACE, reinforced primarily by CORRECT ANSWERS rather than with "fruit loops and rasins", we can assume that even developmentally RETARDED or CONfHOWENDED children CAN LEARN as well. Moreover, Whelan makes the EXXXTREMELY important point that while most teachers assume that learning takes place verbally, primarily it is a non verbal process.. Unfortunately Whelan limits himself to the problem that "teachers must not only modify or remove specific deviant behaviors, but must also develop socially acceptable behavior patterns in the classroom and classroom conditioned goals, NOT LEARNING. Other researchers have emphasized the importance ofadult behaviors in conditioning classroom behavior. An EXXXCELLENT review of this researchshowd that tantrum behavior, excessive crawling and dependency, isolated play, passivity, spelling failure, and other problem behaviorscan be managed by altering habitual adult responses to children (Harris, Wolf and Baer, 1964) . Such RESEARCHholds GREATER PROMISE in that alteration of the conditioning social environment seems to provide more STABLE and LASTING CHANGES than "M and M’s". Moreover, a great deal of work has been done developing EFFECTIVE techniques of behavior modificaton through the conditioning social environment of peers (Hartup, 1964). These directions would seem more PRODUCTIVE than a simple minded trainslation of the Skinner cage to the classroom. Skinner (1963) pointed HOWET that operant techniques can "be utilized fully ONLY IF we REDEFINE the GOALS of education and the CONDITIONS in the educational environment under which those goals may be reached… (through) a DIFFERENT KIND of educational research which is much more closely concerned with the immediate dimensions of the student’s behavior than with gross changes such as IMPROVED PERFORMANCES." UNFORTUNATELY, neither Skinner nor ANY OTHER learning theorist has provided us with a working model of a school or research enterprise based on systemic and thorough-going APPLICATION of LEARNING PRINCIPLES. Skinner (1948, 1953) approaches a definition of the philosophical issues involved, and provides an utopian model of a school, but generally psychologists seem STUCK at a level of MANAGEMENT of an aggressively disturbing child in the classroom, through peer approval, or the aplication of accelerating CONsequences in the classroom, or scientifically S-HOWENDING tactics like "TIME HOWET" (which we used to know more simply as "sendin the kid to the cloakroom"). Hobbs (op. cit.) claims that the classroom is a natural environement for the child. Thelen (1965) contends that "classroom practices are UNnatural, UNreasonable, and ‘against NATURE.’ ". This would seem the central issue for the philosophy of education. Mere trivial application of research findings to an institution essentially unchanged from Sumerian academies (Kramer, 1962) will NOT create useful teaching for human beings. It seems relevant to ask EXXXACTLY WHAT do we know abHOWT the learning situation in which HOWER children find themselves, and why, in the light of HOWER knowledge, do we do any of the things that schools do?" We know that there is little agreement among adults as to what it is they are SUPPOSED to be DOING, what something to do could be that MIGHT be EFFECTVE, and what it IS that other people who have authority over children ought to be doing (Mc- Eachern and Taylor, 1967). Wherefor the child’s CONfusiHOWEN? It is NO WONDER hat the marked changes in deviant behavior of children can be achieved through brief, simple educative routines with their mothers which modify the mother’s social behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child (Szrynski 1965). A large number of cases improved sufficiently after preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment of children was required, and almost ALL cases SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy. Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966). Probably the most absurd figure in Amaerican mass media is the TEACHER (Gerbner, 1966). HOWE can we EXXXPECT children to LEARN responsible P-HOWER from models of IMPOTENCE? We KNOW that LEARNING a complex ritualized social role, is facilitated by observation of an INTELLIGIBLE MODEL much more effectively than by trial and error with REINFORCEMENT. roles which are relatively arbitrary and senseless are the most difficult to learn (Luchins, 1966). Do we make ANY EFFORT as teachers to CORRECT the massive impact of media? HOWE can the ARBITRARINESS and SENSELESSNESS of IMPOTENT ADULT MODELS be redeemed by anything short of RELEVANCE and COMMITMENT? As an engaging final comment on the PROFESSION let me mention the little study by Dittman et al (1965) tha when 15 psychotherapists and 9 professional dancers evaluated facial and bodily expressons for effect the dancers ere much MOORE accurate. Need we say MOORE abHOWET the training of therapists? THE OPERANT FALLACY Programs utilizing the "contingencies of reinforcement model" proposed by Skinner (1963) ar no more well established in research than the various dynamic therapists. Research in four areas : 1) direct evaluation of programmed systems for elarning; 2) reinforcement; 3) cognitive dissonance; and 4) motivation, MOST SURELY DEMOLISH eth claims of operant programers. The 190 studies annotated by Schramm (1964) when inspected display NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES

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      "The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior                                  Never Change,          Or They’d Not Be Scientific And Would Not Obtain              Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results                                 For All Handler’s                                   And All Dogs,                   For ALL FIELDS And ALL UTILITIES                                    ALL OVER                           The Whole Wild World                             NEARLY INSTANTLY,   As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard’s FREE            WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual,"                          The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ )   You can TRAIN ANY DOG KAT BIRDY or CHILD in a few minutes to NATURALLY WANT to do ANY THING you ask if you DON’T follow the ADVICE of the lying dog kat birdy and child abusing MENTAL CASES you’re askin for HEELP.                  You GET The Critter You TRAINED                             A DOG Is A Dog;                          As A KAT Is A KAT;                       As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;                      As A CHILD IS A CHILD;              As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.   ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING                      ALL Critters Only Respond In           PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL                    INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;   To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment                      Which We Create For Them.        Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."             We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions                   And GET BACK What We TAUGHT. Dr. George VonHilsheimer writes in "Is there a SCIENCE of BEHAVIOR?": "Valette 1966 is a complete trivialization of scientific findings. It overstates the case for reinforcement theory. No careful researcher would contend that operant techniques CAN ANY THING MORE than modify SHORT TERM BEHAVIOR in a highly controlled and limited environment with a large number of skillful experimenters. Certainly the most elaborate studies have shown that the withdrawal or temprary inefficiency of the reward system is immediately followed by CESSATION of the programmed behavior. In fortunate contrast to this depressing paper is the research reported by Whelan (1966) who makes the simple but profHOWEND caveat that "It is only through CORRECT, EFFICIENT APPLICATION (of operant principles) that children’s behavor can be changed to the extent that they can subsequently contribute to the REAL WORLD in which they live." " "The Methods, Principles And Philosophy Of Behavior Never Change, Or They’d Not Be Scientific And Would Not Obtain Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results For All Handler’s And All Dogs, As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual," The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) Dr. Von continues: "Whelan illustrates the simple nature or the learning process by referring to Ferster’s engaging study of two three year old chimpanzees taught mathematics through simple procedures. Whelan carries this EVIDENCE a step futher by pointing HOWET it’s applicability to disturbed children." A Dog Is A Dog As A Child Is A Child As A Kat Is A Kat. All Critters Only Respond In Predictable Innate, Normal, Natural, Instinctive, Reflexive, Ways To Circumstances And Situations Of Their Environments Which We Create For Them. ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY MISHANDLING. Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture." We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions And GET BACK What We TAUGHT. In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS FAILURE MEANS DEATH. SAME SAME SAME SAME, For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS. Dr. Von continues: "If chimpanzees CAN LEARN mathematics through step by step learning AT THEIR OWN PACE, reinforced primarily by CORRECT ANSWERS rather than with "fruit loops and rasins", we can assume that even developmentally RETARDED or CONfHOWENDED children CAN LEARN as well. Moreover, Whelan makes the EXXXTREMELY important point that while most teachers assume that learning takes place verbally, primarily it is a non verbal process.. Unfortunately Whelan limits himself to the problem that "teachers must not only modify or remove specific deviant behaviors, but must also develop socially acceptable behavior patterns in the classroom and classroom conditioned goals, NOT LEARNING. Other researchers have emphasized the importance ofadult behaviors in conditioning classroom behavior. An EXXXCELLENT review of this researchshowd that tantrum behavior, excessive crawling and dependency, isolated play, passivity, spelling failure, and other problem behaviorscan be managed by altering habitual adult responses to children (Harris, Wolf and Baer, 1964) . Such RESEARCHholds GREATER PROMISE in that alteration of the conditioning social environment seems to provide more STABLE and LASTING CHANGES than "M and M’s". Moreover, a great deal of work has been done developing EFFECTIVE techniques of behavior modificaton through the conditioning social environment of peers (Hartup, 1964). These directions would seem more PRODUCTIVE than a simple minded trainslation of the Skinner cage to the classroom. Skinner (1963) pointed HOWET that operant techniques can "be utilized fully ONLY IF we REDEFINE the GOALS of education and the CONDITIONS in the educational environment under which those goals may be reached… (through) a DIFFERENT KIND of educational research which is much more closely concerned with the immediate dimensions of the student’s behavior than with gross changes such as IMPROVED PERFORMANCES." UNFORTUNATELY, neither Skinner nor ANY OTHER learning theorist has provided us with a working model of a school or research enterprise based on systemic and thorough-going APPLICATION of LEARNING PRINCIPLES. Skinner (1948, 1953) approaches a definition of the philosophical issues involved, and provides an utopian model of a school, but generally psychologists seem STUCK at a level of MANAGEMENT of an aggressively disturbing child in the classroom, through peer approval, or the aplication of accelerating CONsequences in the classroom, or scientifically S-HOWENDING tactics like "TIME HOWET" (which we used to know more simply as "sendin the kid to the cloakroom"). Hobbs (op. cit.) claims that the classroom is a natural environement for the child. Thelen (1965) contends that "classroom practices are UNnatural, UNreasonable, and ‘against NATURE.’ ". This would seem the central issue for the philosophy of education. Mere trivial application of research findings to an institution essentially unchanged from Sumerian academies (Kramer, 1962) will NOT create useful teaching for human beings. It seems relevant to ask EXXXACTLY WHAT do we know abHOWT the learning situation in which HOWER children find themselves, and why, in the light of HOWER knowledge, do we do any of the things that schools do?" We know that there is little agreement among adults as to what it is they are SUPPOSED to be DOING, what something to do could be that MIGHT be EFFECTVE, and what it IS that other people who have authority over children ought to be doing (Mc- Eachern and Taylor, 1967). Wherefor the child’s CONfusiHOWEN? It is NO WONDER hat the marked changes in deviant behavior of children can be achieved through brief, simple educative routines with their mothers which modify the mother’s social behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child (Szrynski 1965). A large number of cases improved sufficiently after preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment of children was required, and almost ALL cases SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy. Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966). Probably the most absurd figure in Amaerican mass media is the TEACHER (Gerbner, 1966). HOWE can we EXXXPECT children to LEARN responsible P-HOWER from models of IMPOTENCE? We KNOW that LEARNING a complex ritualized social role, is facilitated by observation of an INTELLIGIBLE MODEL much more effectively than by trial and error with REINFORCEMENT. roles which are relatively arbitrary and senseless are the most difficult to learn (Luchins, 1966). Do we make ANY EFFORT as teachers to CORRECT the massive impact of media? HOWE can the ARBITRARINESS and SENSELESSNESS of IMPOTENT ADULT MODELS be redeemed by anything short of RELEVANCE and COMMITMENT? As an engaging final comment on the PROFESSION let me mention the little study by Dittman et al (1965) tha when 15 psychotherapists and 9 professional dancers evaluated facial and bodily expressons for effect the dancers ere much MOORE accurate. Need we say MOORE abHOWET the training of therapists? THE OPERANT FALLACY Programs utilizing the "contingencies of reinforcement model" proposed by Skinner (1963) ar no more well established in research than the various dynamic therapists. Research in four areas : 1) direct evaluation of programmed systems for elarning; 2) reinforcement; 3) cognitive dissonance; and 4) motivation, MOST SURELY DEMOLISH eth claims of operant programers. The 190 studies annotated by Schramm (1964) when inspected display NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES in SUCCESS among approaches and modifications. Programmed instruction is no worse than conventional instruction, and takes less time, but time reductions in conventional instruction has frequently been shown possible without detrimental effects. If you draw your controls cagily you can always show the superiority of your PET technique. Moore and Smit (1964) compared variations on programmed materials, machines, texts, written responses, merely reading, free response, multiple choice, and iving or not giving the students results. There were NO … read more »

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If you hit your dog when it does wrong, your dog will bite the children or others when they hurt it.  Teaching dogs and children violence is the answer to misbehaving will only teach them to hit others when they get angry as well.  I have never seen a good old fashioned, loving, wise spanking do anything along the lines of preventing a behaviour.  A nice talk with respect and love goes a long way.  Spanking only makes a child or dog fear getting caught. I know hundreds of families who do not spank their children and have wonderfully behaved children.  I know many families who spanked their children with love and the people grew up to break every family rule. The decline in children today is due to a lack of parental involvement.  A decline in spanking is not the cause.  Every single child I have ever known who had what society would easily refer to as a "discipline" problem is spanked. Hitting a child is loving nor wise.  When a 20 month old tries plugging something into an outlet, a swat on the hand only shows you lack the true respect to sit them down and explain OUCH! or HOT!  A child understands hot or ouch, they don’t want these things.  Surely they don’t want them coming from a parent. It takes the same amount of effort to distract a child away from a misbehaviour with better results than it does to smack them and insist they stop. Any moron can smack, hit, scold or spank a creature into behaving properly.  The true test of love is being able to do it with respect and love.  Those who succeed in raising children without hitting them when all else fails go on to have wonderful members of society, who go on to do far more than their physically abused counterparts in therapy.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You would hit an animal just because a majority suggests it even though you know already that this is the wrong thing to do? Yes, I would, in fact I would do ANYTHING to protect my kids including KILLING the dog if my kids were seriously in danger.  These nips are not playful. They leave a visible mark, and have in one instance drawn blood. Even the non-bleed ones cause her enough pain to cause her to cry. Anyone here who would put a dog before their own children oughtn’t be a parent. However, 1.)  I knew the majority WOULDN’T recommend it. 2.)  I knew that if they DID recommend it then it would be because it WORKED, and that is the aim here, to find a solution that WORKS to protect my daughter, and for the dog. I might add though, that I wasn’t talking about ME hitting the dog, but it being done by her IMMEDIATELY  at the moment that he bites. And as for NEVER SMACKING: Coat a power lead with a bitter-agent to stop the dog chewing it. Dog chews, dog gets bitter taste, dog doesn’t like bitter taste, dog stops chewing lead. Where is this different from :  - Dog does "wrong" behaviour, dog gets "bitter taste" of smack on rump, dog doesn’t like smack on rump, dog stops behaviour. It’s the same damned thing, you just let the bitter product do your smacking for you, and it’s a smack to the tastebuds rather than the rump. I’m not one who totally refuses to use corporal punishment either in animals or kids. Corporal punishment USED to be the norm, and we USED to have NORMAL human beings. Look at the youth around today – all the ones whose parents refused to smack them – are generally a pack of low-life scum. My kids have recieved corporal punishment on occassions. They are also here at home not out vandalising, graffiti painting, shoplifting, tossing shopping trolleys in the local lake for a laugh, or leaving their broken beer bottles, and used syringes under the kids playground equipment in the park. People from the generation of my great grandparents were almost all decent people, people from my grandparents generation were almost all decent people, even many of my parents generation were decent people, all were disciplined with corporal punishment in varying forms as it was the "norm" and so were decent kids the norm. Then you got this bambi-brigade crying out "oooh, you can’t SMACK your kids, you’ll ruin their psyche".  This mamby pamby generation of "thou shall not smack thy child" seem to be bringing up completely conscience-less, irresponsible, immoral, unethical, cretins, and crying "Where did I go wrong". You have ten year olds taking toddlers from shopping malls and beating them to death on railway tracks FCOL! Open your eyes people – NON CORPORAL DISCIPLINE ISN’T WORKING!! Almost without fail, where I’ve found parents whose well adjusted children don’t conform to this new "norm" I’ve also found they have been brought up by parents who use corporal punishment with love and wisdom. The Bible actually says "spare the rod and spoil the child" I’ll follow it’s teachings rather than those of the bambi-brigaders any day thanks kindly. Just because some parents have taken corporal punishment, and turned it into abuse, does not mean you throw the baby out with the bathwater. Used with love, used with wisdom, and used in the most sparing possible amounts, and combined with other methods when appropriate such as withdrawl of priviledges, reasoning and explanation, etc. It’s a time proven formula. Even for animals. Trentus

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HOWEDY doctor john, Michal:  You’ve read the well-meaning but useless responses to my advice.

You’re ADVICE is to HURT and INTIMIDATE dogs, doctor john. You’re a DOG ABUSER. THAT’S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ "DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS." And that likely includes the new poster lookin for HEELP from dog abusing punk thug cowards like yourself, doctor john. Try to see the show and draw your own conclusion.

He’d have his dog TRAINED TODAY if he studied his 75 page FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual withHOWET HURTING and INTIMIDATING his dog like HOWE you PREFER, doctor john, you dog abusing coward <{) ; ~  )   I have used a form of this training with a Husky and 2 German Shepherds over the past 30 years

You’re a DOG ABUSER, doctor john. all of whom quickly learned to walk with a slack leash.

That so? Their curiosity may have to be satisfied some other way.

Yeah? CuriHOWESITY abHOWET pullin away from you on accHOWENT of you CHOKE them.   The important thing here is for YOU to enjoy the walk.

INDEEDY. If you’re happy your dog’ll be happy.

That’s INSANE, doctor john. You CHOKE and SHOCK and INTIMIDATE your dogs.  I would not describe a dog pulling on a leash as a happy dog.

Right. You describe a HAPPY dog as GETTIN CHOKED and SHOCKED and NOT PULLIN YOU on accHOWENT of it makes you LOOK like an incompetent fool when your dog dominates you on leash. BWEEEEEEEEHAHAHAHAAA!!! THAT’S WHAT WE CALL A MENTAL CASE, doctor john.   More like anxious

Yeah, like in a PAINICK, from being JERKED and CHOKED, doctor john.  and doesn’t really know what he is doing or supposed to do.

Yeah. THAT’S HOWE COME dogs GO NUTS from being jerked and choked as you PREFER. The fence post analogy is really off the wall!

You’re as dumb as a fence post if you can’t train a dog not to pull on leash in a couple minutes withHOWET HURTIN IT. Of course the dog wants to get away from the post;

On accHOWENT of IT is RESTRICTING him. who wouldn’t?

It’s the SAME REASON your dogs try to ESCAPE you. You’ve got to SHOCK your dogs to prevent them ESCAPING. Are you a fence post?

You hurt and intimidate your dogs, doctor john. You’re a dog abusing coward. Or are you the loving master of a dog who

You’ll CHOKE and SHOCK, doctor john. only wants to do what you want

The dog is TRYING to ESCAPE his ABUSER. THAT’S HOWE COME you need a SHOCK FENCE to keep your own dogs from ESCAPIN. You posted here to learn all abHOWET surgically sexually mutilating your dog, docto john bennett obg/gyn specialist for forty years. We’d think you’d know all abHOWET the deleteriHOWES effects inapupriate unnecessary surgical sexual mutilation can have on temperament and heelth, doctor FRAUD. but has to learn what that is.

By being CHOKED by a UNIVERSITY GRADUATE. HOWEDY Scott Far Thunder, Cc’s for EMBARRASSMENT FACTOR: Hau

You mean HOWE, Chief.  kolas..

Can have anything you want to drink so long as it ain’t firewater or beer. Dogs HATE the smell of alcohol on people. Care for a stick of gum? Smoke ‘m if you got ‘m. RELAX! Take off your moccasins an set DHOWEN a SPELL. quick question for you..

You AIN’T gonna get a straight answer from these forked tongued tonto’s, Chief. I do believe my dog has several of the symptoms of canine cushing’s disease.

That’s a tough break. Many of HOWER dog lover’s dogs have similar problems due to STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka Sindrome del Mago de los Cachorros <{) ; –  )   Soy El Mago de los Cachorros <{) ; ~  )   BIENVENIDO!  I AM TAKING HER TO THE VET LATER TODAY (doesn’t open til 3, so if all you have to contribute is "take her to a vet", please don’t bother ).

DIS-EASES like Cushing’s Addison’s Lupus fibromyalgias, degenerative neuromyopathies and mylomas, urinary tract / bladder / kidney inflamations, ALL OCD’S (like paw licking / self mutilation) endocrine / parasymptathetic nervHOWES system DIS-EASES, even cancers, periodontal DIS-EASE and cataracts can be CAUSED BY intermittent, non "abusive" ordinary discipline like JUST TELLIN a dog or child "NO!" a few times a day or simply confining them to boxes and scheduling, can make them physically and emotionally ill and GETS SOME DOGS DEAD.  The background: my spayed female black lab (mixed with rotweiler) is about 7 years old now, since age 2, she’s been on prednisone (20mg/day) for food allergies manifested in fevers, itchiness and severe hair loss.

Oh, and THAT TOO. It’s all classic symptoms of The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME <{) ; ~  )   <snip diet diet and drugs have managed her allergies relatively well.

That so? Not crazy about the steroid,

Scary stuff. P-HOWERFUL medecine. but it’s the only thing we’ve  found that works effectively in our particular situation and for this particular dog.

Perhaps professor dermer will offer you his remedy for his dog’s chronic DIS-EASES. Recently, she has exhibited symptoms that we wrote off as approaching  "middle age" and side-effects of the prednisone,  but which also mirror symptoms indicative of Cushing’s disease that I’ve been able to find  at http://www.canismajor.com/dog/cushings.html among other sites..skin  tremors are what really prompted me to start looking around;

Do you think this could be happening to your dog?: "Things are beginning to get much worse day by day and the vets seem unable to help. http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusMed.WMV http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusSmall.WMV" THAT’S AN OCD. His owner CAUSED IT by MISHANDLING and ABUSING his dog according to the BEST advice of HOWER Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACTIVE LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES and ASYLUM ESCAPEES. I had a long-haired dachshund as a teenager  who died at 16 from congestive heart failure which also exhibited these "tremors"; first time I’ve noticed them on the lab was yesterday.

Things happen in old age… geriatric medecine is still in it’s infancy, like shock collar and so called clicker trainin. The question: how prevalent is cushing’s in this  group’s opinion with the labrador breed, and/or how prevalent associated with the corticosteroid prednisone?

Nearly EVERY dog on The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Forums has similar DIS-EASES, not just in the heelth and veterinary forums. THAT’S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard has taken the liberty to combine the variHOWES news groups so dog lovers every where can learn HOWE to handle train and rehabiliate their dog’s temperament behavior and heelth problems NEARLY INSTANLTY and FOR FREE, to boot. We can talk abHOWET the probable causes of it. Most of HOWER dog lovers dogs are DYING on accHOWENT of they punish their dogs with choking crating shocking bribing spraying aversives in their faces and witholding attention affection bribes and rewards. Like this:   lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:   For barking in the crate – leave the leash on and   pass it through the crate door.  Attach a line to it.   When he barks, use the line for a correction.  - if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.   Lynn K.   "Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution   Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"   lynn.   "I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in   one shelter.)  But their ability to set their own   schedules and duties causes a great deal of   scheduling overhead.   And it takes effort and thought to ensure that   volunteers get the meaningful experience that   they work for.    Someone has to be responsible for that    Volunteer Program, and it is best done    by a non-volunteer."    Lynn K. "Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep The Pressure Up," sindy "don’t let the dog SCREAM" mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ’s pages on k9 web. captain arthur haggerty SEZ: "A CHIN CHUCK" Makes A ResoundingSound Distraction: "When You Chuck The Dog The Sound Will Travel Up The Mandible To The Ears And Give A Popping Sound To The Dog." lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder, expert trainer, discoverer of cannibalism in Labradors: "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG. Now you are ready to progress to what most people think of as force-fetching: the ear pinch. Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance. but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in With your hand on the collar and ear, say, ‘fetch.’ Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb; Say ‘fetch’ while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching its ear," lying frosty dahl.             "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"             things is something you twisted out of             context, because you are full of bizarro             manure." "You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever … read more »

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HOWEDY vfordlcsw, vfordlcsw Junior Member Registered: Apr 2004 Location: Chicago Questions for Jerry

I apologize for not havin FHOWEND your post pryor to today. I was just takin a peek on the WWW to see what folks been sayin abHOWET The Amazing Puppy Wizard, of late <{) ; ~  )   Seems your post is nearly WON year old. HOWEver, NOT TO WORRY, if you’ve FOLLOWED the INSTRUCTIONS in your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual you won’t NEED any additional advice. I’ve been using your manual quite successfully,

INDEEDY. THAT’S The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s INTENT.  just a couple of things my 8 month old Papillon pup is still doing I’m having trouble with….

NO PROBLEMO. 1.) I have him pooping/peeing outside just fine, also peeing in a litterbox lined with newspapers when I’m out, etc. Sometimes he poops just outside the litterbox, though. In observing him pooping outside on walks, I think this is because he often walks forward a little to get the poo out, so I believe that he’s intending to poop on the papers, but misses when he walks forward.

NO PROBLEMO~ Is there any way of breaking him of this?

For SHORE! The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s ferret had the same problem. Just a couple brief variably alternating S-HOWEND distractions INSTANTLY followed by PROLONGED SINCERE EXXXUBERANT PROFHOWEND PRAISE will teach him to pay attention to where he’s makin his moves…  He doesn’t usually poop indoors when I’m around (except when I’m asleep or something), so I haven’t observed him directly.

Ooops! That might be from pryor trainin you’ve tried with him. I do the initially ignore, drop the can by the poop technique, no praise, distract the dog, remove him from the room, clean up, praise next time dog is in the room technique but that hasn’t worked.

It may take four repetitions to accomplish the training, OR it may be he’s unaware of what you’re trying to indicate, IF these incidents are NEXT TO THE PAPERS he’s using inapupriately. NO PROLEM. Just FOLLOW the method and he’ll learn. If these instances are when he was TRYING to use the papers, INSTEAD of cleaning up, FOLLOW the technique but PUT THE STOOL in the box and carry on as per the INSTRUCTIONS. Is it possible to train him just to pee indoors but not poop (hold it for walks)?

You COULD, but if these are ONLY instances where he’s TRYING but MISSING the papers, we just figgered HOWET HOWE to teach him what we want him to do. Or is it a package deal?

The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual is a GESTALT, i.e. a PACKAGE DEAL. HOWEver, after you UNDERSTAND the methods principles and philosophy and TRAIN the dog to the PACKAGE, then you’ll HAVE the ABILITY to train him to naturally WANT to do ANY THING you ask. 2.) He’s still chewing stuff a lot.

Ooops! THAT’S caused by STRESS. I’m now giving him rawhides regularly,

The Amazing Puppy Wizard highly recommends AGAINST giving bones and rawhide. There’s adequate CASE HISTORY DATA that SEZ they AIN’T WORTH the RISK of using them. also using Bitter Apple on thinks I think he might chew (I know this is not a preferred method

Right. THAT’S HOWE COME FORCE TRAINING FAILS. For an aversive to work it MUST BE AVERSIVE enough to INSTANTLY STOP ANY DOG from DOIN whatever BEHAVIOR the aversive is applied to. Bitter apple etc doesn’t work on ALL DOGS. For THAT reasonwhen aversives are TEMPORARILY necesary (as in your EXXXTREMELY RARE case) till you can accomplish the CONDITIONING to teach him not to chew electric cords or furniture, The Amazing Puppy Wizard ONLY recommends the SPECIFIC product mentioned in your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual <{) : ~  (   but the can technique didn’t seem to be working).

That suggests there’s a PROBLEM with your EXXXECUTION of the TECHNIQUE. Usually in cases like this your timing, tone, or tempo are HOWETA  WHACK. You’re PROBABLY failing to PRAISE sincerely or INSTANTLY enough upon creating the S-HOWEND or FAILING to ALTERNATE the S-HOWEND EVERY TIME, day in to day HOWET, from the last instance it was used for any reason, e.g., last nite you caught him lookin into the trash so you made the S-HOWEND from your hand. Tommorow mornin he fails to come intantly when called, on your NEXT instance you’d NECESSARILY create the S-HOWEND on that SECOND request to come, from BEYOND him, in keeping with the chain of events followin the LAST INSTANCE of S-HOWEND distraction and praise. Actually it has improved,

Good. Do you have a 100% INSTANTLY RELIABLE COME COMMAND? THAT’S PREREQUISITE to the METHOD. It sets the entire relationship pryor to addressin PROBLEM behavior, therebye AVERTING MOST behavior PROBLEMS. and he doesn’t chew things I’ve sprayed the Bitter Apple on

O.K., so it DOES work for him. That’ll be fine TEMPORARILY. Don’t forget, if you CAN’T GET HIM TO REPEAT the BAD BEHAVIORS withHOWET using the AVERSIVES, you’ll have a difficult time EXXXTINGUISHING them. (FYI No pharmacist in my area was able to order the product mentioned in the WEDTM)

Rexall usually has it. but he recently chewed up both rather expensive dogbeds I purchased (which I hadn’t sprayed).

Hmm, that’s curiHOWES. He’s doin THAT as a STATEMENT. Are you CRATING HIM??? You’re probably not, but if so, THAT’S HOWE COME he’s chewin his bedding. OtherWIZE, he’d be doin it as an anXXXIHOWESNESS relief mechanism, perhaps from separation anXXXIHOWESNESS, which we KNOW is CAUSED BY MISHANDLING. You can use The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s Surrogate Toy Separation AnXXXIHOWESNESS / Bed Time Calming / Fear of Thunder / Submissive Urination / Car Sickness Technique. Try leavin IT right there in his bed and he’ll KNOW he’s in EXXXCELLENT company. You might want to ask professor SCRUFF SHAKE dermer HOWE COME IT WORKS like freakin MAGICK. "Just Want To Second Jerry’s Method For Dealing With This (Destructive Separation Anxiety). I’ve Suggested It To Quite A Few Clients Now And It’s Worked ‘EVERY TIME The Very First Time’ – marilyn, Trainer, 33 Years Experience. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– To: The Puppy Wizard Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:12 PM Aloha Jerry, Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy technique is working wonders.  I have not had a shredded sheet for over a week now.  It is nice to be able to leave the bed made and come home to a made bed. Your program is awesome, but you already know that.  Keep up the good work! Hoku Aloha Sunny, Just follow the training program to the letter, no matter how insignificant some of the step seem to be and your pupy will be a very well behaved dog in a few days. I would seriously consider backing out of the training classes as they will conflict with the Wit’s End principles. I went the training route first, and still had problems until I found Wits’ End.  Now I have two "new and improved" dogs. You won’t be dissapointed if you follow the program. Good luck, Hoku It’s fun for him, I know. Oh no… it’s an ANXXXIHOWESNESS RELIEF MECHANISM. Any advice? FOR SHORE!: Re: Barking Deterrants Needed… Hi. Please understand that I do not know Jerry and have spoken with him briefly once by email. I have no stake or interest in the success of  his business.  I simply want to thank him publicly for one of his tips, with regards to separation anxiety. I thought it seemed far fetched to praise a stuffed animal and then say good bye to my own dog, but I am usually a very open minded person, so I tried it. Well, lo and behold- the damn trick worked! I think Jerry has some intriguing techniques, and personally I think everyone who constantly criticizes him is not understanding his logic. Thank you Jerry! 3.) He tries to eat goodies on his walkies, We can EXXXTINGUISH that in WON DAY.  with variable success IOW, FAILURE.  with the "Drop it" command SAME SAME. Have you got a 100% RELIABLE COME COMMAND INSTALLED as a CONDITIONAL REFLEX and have you done ALL the preliminary EXXXERCISES???: Hi, Jerry. I’m not sure that I’m a 100% convert, or that I agree with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this manual … BUT … we had "come" down pat in a few reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber ball at my feet on command.  He’s still not perfect (just a pup, after all,  and he’s stubborn enough to want to push  and test me a little bit more).  For what it’s worth, I can see (as no doubt  you have) how your usenet manner is likely  to rankle a few folks, but that woman who  advocates ear pulling and beating with sticks  deserves everything she gets. Even if that  was the only method that would work, I’d live  with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that.  (Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively,  tho’).  Best, ben (sometimes he does, sometimes he hears "swallow it : )" ). He SWALLOWS IT to PREVENT YOU from STEALIN IT! Your "DROP IT" command is HOWE COME you CANNOT TRAIN HIM NOT TO PICK IT UP! You’ve got to FOLLOW the METHOD PRECISELY. You’ve got to PERMIT the dog to ENGAGE the THOUGHT of the "bad" behaviors and WORK THE TECHNIQUES PRECISELY as INSTRUCTED, e.g., you spy him eyeballin a rock he wants to chew, you make the S-HOWEND and praise, he DON’T BREAK OFF from it, so you make your NEXT S-HOWEND and PRAISE while NOT PULLIN HIM BACK from TAKIN IT, and if he CONTINUES to TRY to take it you ASK HIM TO COME and praise and RELEASE HIM to TRY AGAIN so YOU may have another BITE AT THE APPLE, so to speak. GOT IT???

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……and in reply I say!: HOWEDY nick,

I agree that if we all complain about this raving nuisance, we may get it stopped. A couple of people trying will not get action. I know it can be filtered, but it is making rather a mess of the groups, isn’t it?

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……and in reply I say!: HOWEDY nick, AS The Amazing Puppy Wizard STATED: You’re a dog abusing mental case, WELCOME to The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Forums and School Of HARD KNOCKS and HUMAN BEHAVIOR RESEARCH LABORATORY. YOU’RE SETTIN IN IT.

Oh dear oh dear oh dear….how sad.

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YOU’RE A DOG ABUSER BY YOUR OWN POSTED CASE HISTORY, nicky…

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food is NOT the problem the dog is AFRAID of nicky the MENTAL CASE who ABUSES HIM.

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HOWEDY leah, What techniques do the savvy folks here recommend to teach a generally compliant dog to just continue the damn walk and not try to take down the UPS truck?

BWEEEEEEEAHAHAHAHHHAAAA!!! WE CHOKE AND SPRAY AVERSIVES IN THEIR EYES AND SHOCK THE SHIT HOWETA THEM. Big, loud vehicles are his triggers.

Only dog abusing mental cases post here abHOWETS.  So I would suggest desensitizing him to the triggers by exposing him to them in baby steps, under controlled conditions.

Like HOWE you done for your own dog’s FEAR AGGRESSION of GARBAGE TRUCKS and other dogs when you’re walkin IT on leash, leah? YOU’RE A FRAUD. For example, you could start outside somewhere trucks are parked.  Be far enough away from the stationary trucks that he doesn’t react to them at all,

Oh? You gonna SNEAK UP on a truck, leah? and reward him for his calmness.

You mean BRIBE IT to NOT BE AFRAID.  Next session, move a little closer.

BWEEEEEEEAHAHAHHHAAAA!!! HER DOG WILL GLADLY DRAG HER CLOSER, leah you freakin MENTAL CASE. If he begins to react, back up.

Oh? You mean SHOWE THE DOG YOU’RE AFRAID too. If he ignores the trucks, move closer in the next session.

The dog ATTACKS truck leah, JUST LIKE HOWE YOUR DOG DOES. REMEMBER? YOU CAN’T TRAIN YOUR OWN DOG FOR THE SAME PROBLEM. REMEBER? When he’s fine close to the trucks, take him somewhere that they will be moving.

BWEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!   Again, start far enough away that he doesn’t react.

So you can SNEAK UP on it.   Rinse and repeat.

THAT’S INSANE, leah. You can EXXXTINGUISH the visual oral reflex in a couple moments if you knew HOWE. You don’t, on accHOWENT of you PREFER BRIBERY AVOIDANCE PAIN FEAR FORCE INTIMIDATION and MURDERING dogs with your IDIOCY INCOMPETENCE and LIES. Normally,

NORMALLY YOU GOT NO METHOD FOR ANY BEHAVIOR PROBLEM EXXXCEPT YOUR OWN MENTAL ILLNESS and all you can do for THAT is STAY IN BED and TAKE ANTI PSYCHOTIC PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION and NEGLECT your own dogs who SHIT on your C-HOWECH weeks ago and YOU NEVER EVEN NOTICED IT till you SLEPT IN IT LAST NITE! BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!  this kind of therapy goes very slowly at first,

Well that’s on accHOWENT of YOU GOT NO METHOD. It takes TWENTY MINUTES to CURE ANY DOG of car chasin MABYE LESS. MAYBE NEARLY INSTANTLY. You’re a FRAUD a LIAR a DOG ABUSER a COWARD and ACTIVE LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASE and it’s ALL in BLANKMAN an WHITE an HTML IN YOUR OWN WORDS.  and then you start making more rapid steps in progress.

CITES PLEASE? YOU’VE NEVER HAD A SUCCESSFUL ANYTHING. Family Dog Trainer "It’s A Dog’s Life"

You’re a MENTAL CASE: Leah        Effexor for chronic depression, in denial                 about being mentally ill. Has taken                 several other mentally ill medications                 before settling on effexor for her chronic                 mental problems. Recenly changed to                 another ANTI PSYCHOTIC prescription. "I don’t think Jerry intentionally lies.  I think he twists things around in his own mind until he actually believes what he’s saying." Jerry is the only poster here who gives dangerous advice. Google for spike and squirt.  And let’s not forget the times he’s told posters whose dogs have medical problems that his halfwits-end program could cure them. PetsMart Pet Trainer My Kids, My Students, My Life "It was kind of funny, in an absurd way.  The rabbit was completely still, eyes open and glazed, dried blood in his ears and mouth, with his back legs stiffening quickly. It was her pet rabbit, not a wild bunny, so that made it much harder for her. And he was killed by bichons. Her dogs had torn it apart.  My one student who had shown up (another weird thing about the night) and I had to continuously check for heart and bowel sounds for her, until she could accept that the rabbit was dead. (The rigor mortis in his back legs she attributed to "pain")

HOWEDY sharon too, If The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME is TRUE AND IT IS On AccHOWENT Of The POSTED CASE HISTORIES Of The Amazing  Puppy Wizard’s CRITICS PROVES IT through The Wizardry Of ANAL-ytic BEHAVIORISM RIGHT HERE In The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Forums And SCHOOL Of HARD KNOCKS And Human Behavior Research Laboratory’s ARCHIVES. You’re SETTIN IN IT. Let’s say your veterinary PRACTICE could EXXXTINGUISH 99% of BEHAVIOR INDCUED PHISICAL DIS-EASE like GARBAGE and POISON EATIN like the tripe you spew? As a VETERINARY OFFICE MANAGER for your DH we’d think you’d APPRECIATE teaching your CUSTOMERS HOWE to POISON PROOF their dogs and train their puppys withHOWET locking them in boxes and jerking choking shocking spraying aversives in their faces bribing and withholding bribes attention and affectiont to FORCE CON-TROLL of the diabolical behaviors of the cunning domestic puppy dog you don’t have the INTELLECT to HOWEtwit even after ALL The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY HEELED FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students told you HOWE they done it EZ GENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY and FOR FREE as they REPORT RIGHT HERE. You call them LIARS and advise people to KILLFILE the MOST EFFECTIVE PROPHYLAXIS for 90% of your husbands VETERINARY PRACTICE. Wouldn’t it be sumpthin if you could EARN an honest living by advising PATIENTS HOWE to raise handle manage and train their dogs withHOWET The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME to support the lifestyle to which you’ve become accustomed off of unnecessarily inapuprately surgically mutilating your CUSTOMER’S dogs and EXXXORCISING intestinal blockages from swallowin DESTRUCTIVELY CHEWED items which are swallowed ON ACCHOWENT of the TRIPE you’ve been feedin their owners abHOWET HOWE to FORCE CON-TROLL of their dog’s BAD BEHAVIORS which as The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s ARCHIVES PROVE, are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING. LIKE FEAR AGGRESSION CAUSED BY NEUTERING, for EXXXAMPLE. BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!! That’s a tough cross to bear, AIN’T IT. You DEPEND on MISHANDLINNG for MOST of your BUSINESS of MEDICAL TREATMENT for PROBLEMS CAUSED BY MISHANDLING AND ABUSE as TAUGHT by your pal professor SCRUFF SHAKE and his cohort at UofWI, dr plonsky. Wouldn’t it be a MIRACLE, sharon too if YOUR HUSBAND CURED professor SCRUFF SHAKE’S little dog Maxie The Magnificently FuriHOWESLY Obsessive Compulsive Masturbator’s CHRONIC STRESS INDUCED AUTO IMMUNE DIS-EASE withHOWET medication and surgery, by simply teahin him HOWE to pupperly handle raise and train his dogs and children FOR FREE using The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual? INDEED, THAT WOULD BE A MIRACLE. And you know WHAAAT? YOU CAN DO IT! The Amazing Puppy Wizard will SHOWE YOU HOWE. FOR FREE. It’s ALL in your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual <:{) ; ~ )   You know, the WON you tell POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS to KILLFILE. BWEEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!

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HOWEDY People, The Amazing Puppy Wizard got no comment on the medical treatment of your dog’s chronic DIS-EASES EXXXCEPT to say DOGS DIE FROM THIS STUFF. You’ve read The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s Archives so you probably know there’s a very real likliHOOD that your dog’s chronic ear infections are similiar in nature to those of professor SCRUFF SHAKE’S little chronically ill dog Maxie who is DUE to come DHOWEN with yet another BHOWET of SYMPTOMS due to FHOWEL weather causing cabin fever which usually brings abHOWET a case of obedience training! Clicker training INCREASES anXXXIHOWESNESS. Corrections traininng INCREASES anXXXIHOWESNESS. Crate training INCREASES anXXXIHOWESNESS. AnXXXIHOWENESS causes STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME. The Amazing Puppy Wizard URGES you to READ HIS TEN STEP REHABILITATION program offered to professor SCRUFF SHAKE. Then ASK YOURSELF HOWE you handled and trained your dog for ordinary HOWEstraining and obedience. ASK YOURSELF HOWE many times a day do you ordinarily tell your dog "NO!" for ANY reason ASK YOURSELF HOWE you handle him on lead and consider any crating or bribing to elicit or force CON-TROLL of behaviors and you will likely see five or ten DAILY, almost insignificant, instances of random STRESS from corrections, leash walking, or anXXXIHOWESNESS from fence running and barking or digging to relieve anXXXIHOWESNESS. That’s HOWE COME dog’s IMMUNE SYSTEMS compromise offering VERY SIMILAR although WILDLY, WIDELY RANGING, CHRONIC, STRESS INDUCED SYMPTOMS, every thing from LAMENESS and CRUCIATE LIGAMENT, and ENDOCRINE DIS-EASE to SEIZURES, OCD’s to CATARACTS and even DENTAL DIS-EASE and "ALLERGIES.". MOST of HOWER dog lover’s dog’s got a case of chronic sumpthin or other for THE SAME SAME SAME SAME REASONS. These HUGE PERCENTAGES of CHRONICALLY ILL and FEAR AGGRESSIVE or SUBMISSIVE dogs are NOT NORMAL illnesses and behaivors.. The Amazing Puppy Wizard has over forty years field observation of problem dogs that SEZ the HUGE PERCENTAGES of DEATHLY ILL DOGS amongst the regular posters who’ve been here FOR YEARS are NOT COIN-CIDENTAL. Your reply may PROVE IT at least to you and The Amazing Puppy Wizard. THAT’S HOWE COME the DOG LOVERS you’re askin are gonna KILLFILE YOU if you REPLY. THAT’S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZDECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS, as YOU’VE SEEN in The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s Archives. Yours, The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~  )   Death Producing Ulcers: "Emotional Influences On Health & Behavior" Dr. George Von Hilsheimer Emotional Influences On Behavior Illness is directly related to depression and lack of adjustment, particularly to a new environment (Parens, McConville & Kaplan, 1966). A WIDE RANGE of PSYCHOSOMATIC or CORTICOVISCERAL DIS-EASES was surveyed by Wittkower (1965) to demonstrate the enormous importance of emotional factors in general health. Interview findings of emotional material (recently experienced hopelessness) pryor to biological examinations correctly identified 11 out of 19 with cervical cancer, and 25 of 32 who were cancer free even though psychological tests failed to discriminate these groups (Schmale & Iker, 1966) 150 lung cancer patients showed significantly constricted expression of emotions. The had fewer childhood behavior problems, and lower neuroticism score than their cancer free controls. Heavy cigarette smokers who DO NOT INHALE are more apt to have LUNG CANCER. They, too, show LOWER neuroticism scores. Among heavy cigarette smokers poor emotional expression is as highly related to cancer as urban residence and is more important than a chronic cough or an air polluted environment (Kissen, 1966). A ten year observation of all the women who developed cancer in an isolated pupulation of 2,550 showed that they tended to be unstable or sub stable personalities characterized by melancholy and extraversion, especially marked with those of an undecided body build (Hagll, 1966). Personality dynamics effect both the development of cancer and it’s SITE. Cancer may result from what appears to be a failure to grow– somatically, behaviorally and psychologically (Grinker, 1966). In 109 cases leukemia and lymphoma were associated with a number of losses or separations and with feelings of sadness, anxiety, anger or hopelessness. The PRIMARY FACTOR seems to be the shame and hopelessness of running out of psychological resources (Green, 1966). Cervical cancer patients are less emotionally responsive, more isolative, and less frequently diagnosed as having clinical neuroses than cancer free patients. There is NO CLEAR DIFFERENCE in their FEELINGS and ATTITUDES toward coitus (Rotkin, Qunk, & Couchman, 1965). Schmidt (1966) surveyed nearly 100 studies of behaviorally induced DIS-EASE in animals CONFIRMING and EXTENDING the DATA on PEOPLE. Behaviorally induced DIS-EASES tend to fall into two groups; (1) Hysteriform problems, which INCLUDE HYSTERICAL SEIZURES and FORMS of AGGRESSION as well as collective panic and epilepsies; (2) organic modifications, including functional difficulties and lesions affecting gastro intestinal, cardio vascular, respiratory, sexual, endocrine, skin, urinary, and neuro muscular systems. It is INTERESTING, and SLIGHTLY HORRIFYING, to note that the ONLY SCIENTIFIC RELEVANCE of the standard six hour school day that I have been able to detect in research is that Sawrey and Weisz quite by accident found that six hours on and six hour off of "EXECUTIVE  BEHAVIOR" in monkeys was the ONLY TIME STRUCTURE that INDUCED DEATH PRODUCING         ULCERS.

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Hi there Celeste! I already had my reply typed out, but when I went to post it, it told me to try again in 30 seconds so I lost it all, LOL. Just to summarize though, I check his ears daily when I give him his ear drops and the canals are wide open, no more swelling or inflammation there. The only thing remaining is the swollen head that’s still squishy, the second lancing that Laddie had done has healed over again so it’s just a battle to find some kind of trick that’ll work to get enough of it out that’ll allow his body to just absorb the rest of the serum and flush it out through his kidneys. Plus getting the soft tissue inside his ear canal that ruptured to heal over for him. The bad side is, now that he’s steadily improving and my nerves are more calm it’s hitting me pretty hard how much his regular vets attitude upset me. We went to them on January 21st, when they kicked us out the door to see the "specialist" they said they’d call to check up on him but it’s February 3rd now and they’ve only called once, which was to give us the lab results on his left ear. All we got from them was a lecture about euthanization, pitiful looks, an Rx that was too low in dosage to even work, a 5 day shunt that they didn’t even put in efficiently and refused to take back out at the agreed upon time, a $450+ vet bill for 1 visit and 1 ear, and the "put a bandaid on a bullet wound" kick out the door and told to come back when he’s either had the surgery or come back to euthanize him. If/when he makes it through this completely which I’m hoping he will, I’m taking him back in for a visit to the regular vet so they can be rest assured that he’s alright and so I can tell them that I’m switching vets for good and will no longer need their services for ANY of my dogs. *sighs* Sincerely, Candy and Laddie. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Candy, It’s a relief to know he’s doing better.  I was shocked when you described how bad this was. Celeste

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Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:17 PM Cc’s for EMBARRASSMENT FACTOR: HOWEDY HildesDad, Sir,

You mean ‘HOWEDY The Puppy Wizard,’. I have read some of your posts,

A WIZE idea. The Amazing Puppy Wizard has written the most compelling information on behavior since Descarte. actually many of them,

So you KNOW the score. and from what I can tell you are lacking in a few critical areas

The Amazing Puppy Wizard has led a CHARMED life. HE is IN this world, but not OF it. in both knowledge of dogs

The Amazing Puppy Wizard has SPECIALIZED in temperament and behavior problems in mostly giant breed working dogs and protection training for nearly 45 years, havin grown up in a professional Great Dane breeding board and training kennel and has whelped raised trained and observed three generations of student’s dog’s from birth till death.  and ‘net manners.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard has been cordial respectful sympathetic and heelpful in response to you in your post regardin DM, HildesDADDY. A few examples of the dog knowledge would be in calling people who use crates as training

There AIN’T NO TRAINING that happens in the crate. The crate CONfHOWENDS HOWEsbreaking. Dogs HOWEsbreak INSTINCTIVELY if you don’t LOCK THEM IN A BOX and SCHEDULE their walks and restrict food and water to FORCE CON-TROLL of bodily functions and AVOID behavior problems you don’t have the INTELLECT to HOWEtwit NEARLY INSTANTLY using the INFORMATION in your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual. "abusers".

According to "crate training" methods the dog is locked in the box and ignored or punished if IT whines cries or barks to come HOWET. The AVERAGE dog is crated 16-20 HOWERS a day for two years. It’s ALL in the Archives. lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver: For barking in the crate – leave the leash on and pass it through the crate door.  Attach a line to it. When he barks, use the line for a correction. – if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar. Lynn K. "Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn. A MOM dog and EVEN a well adjusted DADDY DOG would NEVER allHOWE their pups to CRY for WON MINUTE! Locking dogs in a box with no food water or toilet area CAUSES anxiHOWESNESS and INCREASES PHOBIAS and is the CAUSE fear of thunder, car sickness, separation anxiety, irritable BHOWEL syndrome, pacing, spinning, EXXXCESSIVE whining, digging, chewing, barking, self mutilation, shyness, hyperactivity, obsessive compulsive disorders, psychogenic seizures and aggression. If you search The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s Archives you’ll see numerHOWES CASE HISTORIES of posters like professor SCRUFF SHAKE dermer’s little HYPERACTIVE furiHOWESLY obsessive compulsive masturbator Maxie and Master Of Deception blankman’s DEAD DOG DYIN of STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE. You’ll SEE tara o. aka tee’s DEAD DOG Summer gettin jerked and choked and sprayed in the face with aversives when the neighbor’s kids visited and made her FEAR AGGRESSIVE of SMALL CHILDREN. Dogs are by nature den creatures,

Dogs HIDE in their crates and dwell on and INTENSIFY their phobias in them. Read "Starr’s Story’s". Crystal REPORTED that Starr RELAPSED on her 1st instance of being locked in the box several days after rehabilitation. She had to WORK HARD to get her over that PHOBIA she RESTIMULATED. The Amazing Puppy Wizard was EXXXPECTING Starr would RELAPSE if she was crated again, so in order to GET the CASE HISTORY DATA HE didn’t INSIST that Crystal NOT crate her dog, but KNOWING the NATURE of people, ADVISED her that she MAY have a "little relapse" if she locked her up again… and she did. But that was what I NEEDED to DOCUMENT the UNSEEN RESULTS of what SEEMS to most people as HARMLESS, even the dog’s PREFERENCE, and CERTAINLY NOT CRUEL if the dog is walked every couple HOWERS. And NO WON WANTS to BELIEVE that JUST TELLIN THE DOG "NO!" a couple times a day is enough to make your dogs and kids DEATHLY ILL. That’s ALL it takes to make a dog GO INSANE or become PHYSICALLY ILL from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME. But it DOES and WE got the CASE HISTORY DATA right here in The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Forums Archives on Google. LOOK IT UP.  and giving them a dedicated space in a household

You mean like a mat on the floor?  is far from abusive.

Right. It AIN’T. UNLESS the dog OBJECTS OR unless the dog OBSESSES on his fears while crated or SPENDS TIME IN THERE on his own, when his people are arHOWEND. 2.  "You got LUCKY. Most of HOWER dog lover’s dogs are DYIN from it by age three."  -This is just wrong.  Any and all of the citeable material on DM and collected data shows that dogs are typically struck in their 2nd or 3rd trimester of life.  That is not by age three.

I don’t consider older dogs generally to be VICTIMS of TPWS on accHOWENT of the dog usually breaks DHOWEN abHOWET three years of age. Look at all the cruciate ligament DIS-EASE we’re seein. I’ve NEVER had a dog with ANY of those conditions. I’ve had WON dog with WON instance of urethritis and THAT was from TRYING Iams dog food. 3.  "Back to DM. The Amazing Puppy Wizard sees that most dogs HERE, suffering a myriad of diverse symptoms from seemingly urinary tract infections and bladder stones, kidney, endocrine, nervous system DIS-EASES and DIS-ORDERS, psychogenic seizures, even periodontal DIS-EASE and cataracts ARE CAUSED BY "traditional training" methods, crate anxiHOWESNESS, ordinary corrections like JUST TELLIN THE DOG "NO!" a couple times a day, and SCHEDULING, are the CAUSE of ALL temperament and beahvior problems and MOST DIS-EASE." -These statements are absurd in the least.

Yeah. THAT’S HOWE COME we got CASE HISTORY DATA of CONSISTENTLY SICK and DIS-EASED DOGS on HOWER forums amongst HOWER REGULAR posters. LUCKY THING too, seein as YOU won’t accept the SCIENTIFIC LABORATORY DOCUMENTATION: Death Producing Ulcers: "Emotional Influences On Health & Behavior" Dr. George Von Hilsheimer Emotional Influences On Behavior SEE? The Amazing Puppy Wizard is givin it to you BOTH WAYS, HildesDADDY. Most diseases in GSDs are a result of poorly controlled breeding practices caused by both breeders and casual breedings.

THAT’S ABSURD. You can’t blame the dog or the breeder for DIS-EASES triggered by STRESS.   If saying "no" to an animal

You CAN’T "say no" to a DUMB ANIMAL. All THAT will do is teach him FEAR and MISTRUST.  is a cause of disease,

Just LOOK at the WORD: DIS-EASE! then my dogs and my children would certainly be in trouble.

LUCKY thing your dog made it till 12 or The Amazing Puppy Wizard might be blamin her DEATH on you tellin her "NO!" Let’s talk abHOWET her health history? Has she had yeast ear infections, paw licking, allergies, impacted anal glands, stomach upset, cataracts, dental / periodontal DIS-EASE, lameness, separations anxiHOWESNESS, fear of thunder, diabetes, kidney / bladder inflamations, arthritis, ligament joint or any other DIS-EASE which the vet may have prescribed steroids or psychotropics? If you follow these statements

The Amazing Puppy Wizard gave you SCIENTIFIC DOCUMENTATION. YOU IGNORED IT and ATTACKED the MESSENGER.  and have children, Lord help you.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s METHODS work equally well, PROBABLY BETTER, on children on accHOWENT of we DO NOT OPPOSE or INTMIDATE them. HOWE COME do you suppose children LIE? On accHOWENT of they FEAR TELLIN THE TRUTH on accHOWENT of their PARENTS are ABUSERS otherWIZE they WOULDN’T FEAR them ENOUGH to LIE. JUST LIKE HOWER DOG LOVERS. DOGS LIE too. These examples: -"Of curse not! That’s HOWE COME you’re a liar and a coward."  -"You don’t have to, DOG ABUSER. All behaviors are PREDICTABLE RESPONSES to situations and circumstances  of their environment." -"YOU GOT A DEAD DOG TO SHOW FOR IT…" -"What’s NOT a REALITY is YOUR FUTURE in this BUSINESS." -"HOWEDY lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn,"

You find THAT offensive, HildesDADDY?: "Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn. lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver: For barking in the crate – leave the leash on and pass it through the crate door.  Attach a line to it. When he barks, use the line for a correction. – if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar. Lynn K. Tsk tsk tsk. You’d think The Amazing Puppy Wizard was ATTACKING YOU for OTHER PEOPLE’S ABUSES, HildesDAD. LOOKS to The Amazing Puppy Wizard like you’re INSULTED that YOU might be thinkin The Amazing Puppy Wizard classifies you with them lying dog abusing punk thug cowards and active long term incurable MENTAL CASES who HURT INTIMIDATE and MURDER dogs and LIE abHOWET it and ATTACK anyWON who SEZ you shouldn’t HURT INTIMIDATE BRIBE CHOKE SHOCK or CRATE a critter or kid or SP-HOWES *(unless it’s for FUN). Like introducin dogs to HOWES kats: "You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever Said Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House Cats? Don’t bother. The answer is never," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn. lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs: "This Article Is Something We’ve Put Together For SF GSD Rescue  How can I get him to quit chasing the cats.

Okay – this is going to be a bit loooong  - Lynn K. "Put a prong … read more »

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Candy, was wondering what your new vet thought of the ear gunk problem that started this and that your other dogs have too?? one of our little poms has nasty ear gunk in one of her ears too, we do our best to keep it clean but it seems we’re still cleaning as much as ever.. dont’ think the vet checked her ear last time she was in, but she’s going in here in the nest few weeks to get her teeth cleaned so i want to ask her about it then.

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Your dog’s ears and teeth problems are CAUSED BY STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME <{) ; ~ )  

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My days of blind trust are OVER. *sigh*

Dear Candy, I just want to note that no one is perfect and that I often question my physician, veterinarian, etc. Several times my physician has made an incorrect diagnosis before he finally found "the cause."  But I do understand your frustration and anger. competent vet BEFORE anything snowballs out of control.

Above you write about a "competent vet." Most people talk/write this way, but you would be much better off questioning the particular behaviors your vet did or did not do. Years ago, I had sent out a letter of concern about some of the activities of my son’s teacher. I had tried to talk to the teacher about my concerns, but she would not talk to me. So, I sent a letter to her and sent copies to the parents of the students that she teaches. (This is a private school; my wife teaches there.) Several parents wrote to me complaining about my questioning the teacher’s competence but as I pointed out I was in no position to question all of the teacher’s activities. I had instead focused on particular behaviors that had occurred at particular times, and in particular settings. All of these behaviors had produced written records. I had focused on these records so as to avoid being convicted of libeling the teacher. (The best defense against charges of libel or slander is that what was said or written was true.) I SUGGEST that you question the diagnoses, question the particular treatments, question the prognosis, but don’t question the veterinarian’s general competence. Good luck to you and yours, –Marshall

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Setter. In article My days of blind trust are OVER. *sigh*

Wasn’t it Dr. Timothy Leary sez "QUESTION QUTHORITY"? Dear Candy, I just want to note that no one is perfect

Speak for yourself, professor.  and that I often question my physician, veterinarian, etc.

That so? INDEEDY you SHOULD. Your doctor and your vets have run you through the mill with false mistaken inapupriate diagnosises and Rx. Several times my physician has made an incorrect diagnosis before he finally found "the cause."

Yeah. LUCKY thing that in the meanwhile YOU PREYED to "G-D!" for HEEELP! And you GOT IT! And THEN you DENIED HIM AGAIN. But THAT is the NATURE of the Beast. But I do understand your frustration and anger.

INDEEDY. Chronic infections are DEATHLY DIS-EASES. Her dog could DIE from this FAST, professor. These kind of ear infections can actually EAT THROUGH INTO THE BRAIN. competent vet BEFORE anything snowballs out of control.

He may need surgery. Above you write about a "competent vet." Most people talk/write this way, but you would be much better off questioning the particular behaviors your vet did or did not do.

You mean like abuse the dog by scruff shakin it, professor? Years ago, I had sent out a letter of concern about some of the activities of my son’s teacher.

Was she jerking and choking and locking kids in the closet and spraying aversives in their faces and tying them to the wall in the crapper for time HOWETS? I had tried to talk to the teacher about my concerns,

Kinda like HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard tried to talk to you abHOWET you bein a dog abuser. YOU DENIED IT. The Amazing Puppy Wizard QUOTED YOU HURTING dogs and that made you a liar. But you already WAS a PROVEN LIAR by means of your false review of and your fraudulent report on The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual. THAT’S when you lost the title Master Of Deception to ms. diane blankaman, dog abusing mental case and twisted word wizard. but she would not talk to me.

PERHAPS like yourself and The Amazing Puppy Wizard, she HAD NO DEFENSE and chose to AVOID YOU from busting her for bein a child abuser? So, I sent a letter to her and sent copies to the parents of the students that she teaches.

Oh? You mean kinda like HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard has quoted and identified and DISCREDITED you all over the Whole Wild World as a lying dog abusing congenital freakin MENTAL CASE, REMEMBER professor SCRUFF SHAKE? (This is a private school; my wife teaches there.)

THIS is The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Forums and School Of HARD KNOCKS and HUMAN BEHAVIOR RESEARCH LABORATORY, professor SCRUFF SHAKE. Several parents wrote to me complaining about my questioning the teacher’s competence

PERHAPS they read your mental heelth case history? but as I pointed out I was in no position to question all of the teacher’s activities.

You’ve been proven to be a dog abusing lying fraud, professor SCRUFF SHAKE, you and that coward you work with dr. plonsky. I had instead focused on particular behaviors that had occurred at particular times, and in particular settings.

You mean like SCRUFF SHAKING a baby puppy to teach IT respect trust and unconditional LOVE, professor DOG ABUSING PUNK THUG FRAUD MENTAL CASE? All of these behaviors had produced written records.

And ANAL-ytic BEHAVIORISM was BORN right here in The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s Archives. When your "students" get WIZE to The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s Archives they’ll MOCK YOU TO DEATH. BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAAA!!! And when your university and professional associations get ahold of your POSTED CASE HISTORY you’ll be DISBARRED from membership for violation of their CODES OF PROFESSIONAL ETHICS, professir SCRUFF SHAKE.  I had focused on these records

You mean The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s Archives <{) ; ~ ) so as to avoid being convicted of libeling the teacher.

You’re a lying dog abusing punk thug coward FRAUD professor and it’s ALL in blankman an white an html. You can SUE The Amazing Puppy Wizard for slander and libel if you PREFER, professor. Perhaps your university legal department will take you and your partner dr DOG ABUSER plonsky’s case and vindicate you both? BWEEEEEEEEHAHAHAHAHHAAA!!! If you wasn’t a FRAUD you WOULD be SUIN The Amazing Puppy Wizard for DISCREDITING you by QUOTING YOUR OWN WRITTEN WORDS hurtin intimidatin animals and children and lying abHOWET it, professor DOG ABUSING FRAUD LIAR COWARD MENTAL CASE. And IT’S ALL IN YOUR OWN POSTED WORDS. (The best defense against charges of libel or slander is that what was said or written was true.)

BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAA!!! THAT’S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard ONLY posts to pubicly archived forum. You’re a liar a dog abuser a coward and active long term incurable mental case and it’s ALL IN WRITING and you can SUE The Amazing Puppy Wizard til HEEL freezes over and you’ll NEVER GET THE STINK OFF YOU for being what you was born, a natural born coward liar and ACTIVE INCURABLE MENTAL CASE. AND WE CAN PROVE THAT BY YOUR POSTIN HERE. I SUGGEST that you question the diagnoses,

Your own dog is DYING from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE, the PROBABLE CAUSE of the OP’s dog’s ear infection, professor. It’s the SAME SAME as your little hyperactive OCD chronically DEATHLY ILL dog Maxie The Magnificent FuriHOWESLY Obsessive Compulsive Masturbator.  question the particular treatments, question the prognosis,

This PROBLEM won’t CURE EZ on accHOWET of the NATURE of STRESS INDUCED AUTO- IMMUNE DIS-EASE. You got to EXXXTINGUISH THE STRESS to CURE the DIS-EASE SYMPTOMS. Perhaps you should SHARE YOUR CURE with the OP, PROFESSOR? If your CURE for your dog’s STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS- EASE WORKS you COULD SAVE THIS DOG’S LIFE. Just tell us HOWE you CURED your little dog’s chronic infections, professor. You simulated masturbation to RELAXXX your dog pryor to bedtime and CURED HIM!!!  but don’t question the veterinarian’s general competence.

Right. QUESTION HIS UNIVERSITY, professor. FIND HOWET if that clHOWEN is OPPOSED to NOT HURTIN DOGS to train them, professor and THEN YOU’LL KNOW HOWE COME your dog is DYING from The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME. Good luck

Perhaps you’ll lead us in PREYER?  to you and yours,

Ain’t that cunnin? Meanwhile, if your dear friend was to wash her dog’s tallywhacker for five minutes with a warm moist THOWEL for five mintues at bedtime her ear infection would be HEELED NEARLY INSTANTLY JUST LIKE HOWE your dog’s CHRONIC STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS- EASE is in "REMISSION" at this time, till MOORE STRESS provoks another system breakDHOWEN. –Marshall

Here’s HOWER behaviorist professor SCRUFF SHAKE dermer, UofWI, DISCREDITED as a lying dog abusing incompetent fraud, liar, dog abuser, and active long term incurable MENTAL CASE:   "Speech is a mirror of the soul: as a man speaks, so is he."        Publilius Syrus, First century B.C., Maxim 1073                         "We are what we do." While the concept of shake cans is not new, I haven’t read any other advice that says to praise immediately regardless of what the dog does next (the common advice is to praise once the dog is doing a desired behaviour or at least stopped the unwanted behaviour), this is unique to Jerry (and Marilyn) and from my own experiences is an important part of the process.

And how do we know this aspect of his advice is right? Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible. His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis. –Marshall Hello Marshall, The way I view it from my observation of how my dogs react is that the distraction interrupts the dogs thought, not for good or bad, just interrupts, the dog is therefore distracted for a second and then will either continue the behaviour or do something else. The praise reassures the dog that the sound distraction is not a threat or punishment, however if everytime the dog resumes a particular behaviour it’s distracted immediately (and praised immediately for reassurance) then it quickly decides this behaviour is not fulfilling and it ceases. A dog will offer another behaviour in it’s place and if that is acceptable to us then we let it be otherwise the distraction continues until a suitable alternate behaviour is offered. One example, Sam used to jump up on me when I arrived home, I would shake can to distract him right at the moment he was about to jump up, after about 4 repetitions he tried sitting and offering me his paw, of course this was fine so I let it be. While the concept of shake cans is not new, I haven’t read any other advice that says to praise immediately regardless of what the dog does next (the common advice is to praise once the dog is doing a desired behaviour or at least stopped the unwanted behaviour), this is unique to Jerry (and Marilyn) and from my own experiences is an important part of the process. Thanks Paul! He does recommend praising a dog for barking, but he appears to recognize that this may not work and so distraction is recommended as a back up procedure:

Until i read the Jerry method of Bark reduction, it went something like this with our 11 month old puppy "Yoshi" Yoshi: … read more »

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Hi Celeste! I know what you mean about how bad, our regular vet took one look at him and pushed us to a "specialist" but yet in her notes that they photocopied for us so we could take them with us for the "specialist" appointment, she’d written down "poor/grave prognosis" so I think she was expecting him to just keel over and die anyway. It’s horrible enough having a dog that’s sick, let alone having to actually get into a battle of wills with your vet who’s supposed to be helping. Right now Laddie’s still doing amazing, he crunches up his dry food just fine, crunches on his dog biscuits so no problem with chewing though he only yawns about 50% still. His head’s still swollen and squishy (not as much as before the second lancing) because just like last time the latest lance that the vet did has healed over. I check his ears daily when putting in the ear drops, the canals are wide open so no more swelling or inflammation inside, no pain whatsoever in handling the ears. The problem’s still just his swollen head, but we’re sure that given more time he’ll get over that too since it’s serum now and not pus. My greatest wish at the moment is for him to get through this, have his ears heal up and the swelling go back to normal, then I can take him in for a visit to his regular vet and announce that I’m switching vets so will no longer need their "services" or their "specialist" referrals. I know that probably sounds a little vindictive, but they just completely shattered my trust in them by their attitude of "slap a bandaid on a bullet wound" and kick you out the door, only wanting to see you back again if you’re healed or need to be "put to sleep". My days of blind trust are OVER. *sigh* I wouldn’t be surprised that his hearing IS still intact, if I whisper at him from 20 feet away his head snaps up – regular vet told us his ear was "toast" when I just had a gut feeling otherwise that they dismissed. I’m not saying they’re 100% responsible, but all these years they had the brown-black ear gunk right infront of them and just dismissed that too, so I share the blame 50/50 since I just obediently went home and kept cleaning the ears with solution and drying solution and never once thought to get on the net and research. Two of my other dogs have been battling the brown-black gunk for years just like Laddie, so now I’m worried about them too, but unlike Laddie they’ll be switched over to a competent vet BEFORE anything snowballs out of control. Wish us luck, LOL. Sincerely, Candy and Laddie. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Candy, It’s a relief to know he’s doing better.  I was shocked when you described how bad this was. Celeste

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Candy, It’s a relief to know he’s doing better.  I was shocked when you described how bad this was. Celeste

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Carol, I’ve been thinking about getting his blood panel all done up, but with all of the antibiotics and such in his system I didn’t know if those could mess with the results. Laddie came out of the second appointment with Vet #2 just great, and keeps improving everyday – even contradicting in behaviors of what the vet said. Example, since they had to put him under they figured he’d just spend the rest of the day and night sleeping it off and not even be interested in food. He came home with energy, ran around, played with his siblings, ate food, you name it all before finally sleeping, LOL. We go back in again on the 8th, so going to ask the vet then about the blood work since that’ll also be the time the vet decides if he needs to get another Rx of the Cephalexin, he finishes that on the 6th so there’s a 2 day gap in between that might be able to detox him to get the best blood sample. Don’t think it’s autoimmune though since his body’s doing a great job of fighting this off on his own, he healed up in only 2 days from having the first shunt taken out which shocked the vet. This time instead of another shunt, he lanced diagonally lower down on the right side of his head so the serum (not bloody pus like last time) can drain that way. He hasn’t even needed any pain meds which has shocked everyone, you can handle his ear and head and he’ll just look at you, like: "Yes, that’s my ear… oh that feels good, keep doing that. No you stopped, do that again! Hey, Ma? MA!!! I liked that, are you listening?" then he’ll nuzzle and bump my hand with his head, LOL. I’ll be sure to keep everyone posted, like you had said you’d never heard or seen anything this bad before and I haven’t been able to find anyone else who has either. I figure maybe if I post Laddie’s story, if there is someone out there who’s going through this they can find some information (my posts) easier than I could, like a buddy system, LOL. Sincerely, Candace and Laddie.

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Carol, I’ve been thinking about getting his blood panel all done up, but with all of the antibiotics and such in his system I didn’t know if those could mess with the results. Laddie came out of the second appointment with Vet #2 just great, and keeps improving everyday – even contradicting in behaviors of what the vet said. Example, since they had to put him under they figured he’d just spend the rest of the day and night sleeping it off and not even be interested in food. He came home with energy, ran around, played with his siblings, ate food, you name it all before finally sleeping, LOL. We go back in again on the 8th, so going to ask the vet then about the blood work since that’ll also be the time the vet decides if he needs to get another Rx of the Cephalexin, he finishes that on the 6th so there’s a 2 day gap in between that might be able to detox him to get the best blood sample. Don’t think it’s autoimmune though since his body’s doing a great job of fighting this off on his own, he healed up in only 2 days from having the first shunt taken out which shocked the vet. This time instead of another shunt, he lanced diagonally lower down on the right side of his head so the serum (not bloody pus like last time) can drain that way. He hasn’t even needed any pain meds which has shocked everyone, you can handle his ear and head and he’ll just look at you, like: "Yes, that’s my ear… oh that feels good, keep doing that. No you stopped, do that again! Hey, Ma? MA!!! I liked that, are you listening?" then he’ll nuzzle and bump my hand with his head, LOL. I’ll be sure to keep everyone posted, like you had said you’d never heard or seen anything this bad before and I haven’t been able to find anyone else who has either. I figure maybe if I post Laddie’s story, if there is someone out there who’s going through this they can find some information (my posts) easier than I could, like a buddy system, LOL. Sincerely, Candace and Laddie.

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You mean it S-HOWENDS like The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME. DOGS DIE FROM THIS.

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HOWEDY Candy, The Amazing Puppy Wizard got no comment on the medical treatment of your dog’s ears EXXXCEPT to say DOGS DIE FROM THIS STUFF. You’ve read The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s Archives so you probably know there’s a very real likliHOOD that your dog’s chronic ear infections are similiar in nature to those of professor SCRUFF SHAKE’S little chronically ill dog Maxie who is DUE to come DHOWEN with yet another BHOWET of SYMPTOMS due to FHOWEL weather causing cabin fever which usually brings abHOWET a case of obedience training! Clicker training INCREASES anXXXIHOWESNESS. Corrections traininng INCREASES anXXXIHOWESNESS. Crate training INCREASES anXXXIHOWESNESS. AnXXXIHOWENESS causes STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME. The Amazing Puppy Wizard URGES you to READ HIS TEN STEP REHABILITATION program offered to professor SCRUFF SHAKE. Then ASK YOURSELF HOWE you handled and trained your dog for ordinary HOWEstraining and obedience. ASK YOURSELF HOWE many times a day do you ordinarily tell your dog "NO!" for ANY reason ASK YOURSELF HOWE you handle him on lead and consider any crating or bribing to elicit or force CON-TROLL of behaviors and you will likely see five or ten DAILY, almost insignificant, instances of random STRESS from corrections, leash walking, or anXXXIHOWESNESS from fence running and barking or digging to relieve anXXXIHOWESNESS. That’s HOWE COME dogs IMMUNE SYSTEMS compromise offering VERY SIMILAR although WILDLY RANGING CHRONIC SYMPTOMS, every thing from OCD’s to CATARACTS and even DENTAL DIS-EASE, which MOST of HOWER dog lover’s dog’s got a case of for THE SAME SAME SAME SAME REASONS. These are NOT NORMAL illnesses. The Amazing Puppy Wizard has over forty years field observation of problem dogs that SEZ the HUGE PERCENTAGES of DEATHLY ILL DOGS amongst the regular posters who’ve been here FOR YEARS are NOT COIN-CIDENTAL. Your reply may PROVE IT at least to you and The Amazing Puppy Wizard. THAT’S HOWE COME the DOG LOVERS you’re askin are gonna KILLFILE YOU if you REPLY. Yours, The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~  )  

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Theresa Willis: (paxil, depression, robot displacement) Theresa is a gang banger who comes out of cutesy robot mode when it’s time to gang attack people with her pal shelly Victim is usually Leah, but may be a random person. "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is something you twisted out of context, because you are full of bizarro manure." "Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply," lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder, expert trainer, discoverer of cannibalism in Labradors. Well there are always good reasons for failure.

"Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl, discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors. Perhaps the mom dog didn’t want her babies HURT all their lives like HOWE HOWER dog lovers PREFER to HURT THEIR DOGS? "John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the rump with a training stick while holding him partially off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back to the line and cast him back to the dummies." The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE. We’re gonna teach folks THAT AIN’T NORMAL… All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer "Thank you for fighting the fine fight– even tho it’s a hopeless task, in this system of things. As long as man is ruling man, there will be animals (and humans!) abused and neglected. Your student," Juanita. "If you’ve got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow," John Wayne.

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WHO IS THE SICK TROLL? EZ To Prove? HOWEDY Master Of Deception blankman,

It’s only when you have a system that is successful with all dogs, all the time, under all circumstances, and a theory that can be applied to all dogs equally, no matter how different they are in terms of temperament, that you have a real scientific basis for training.

Like The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method AS REPORTED BY The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students all over the Whole Wild World REPORT RIGHT HERE. You know, the WONS YOU CALL LIARS and FORGERIES to defend your alleged RIGHT to HURT INTIMIDATE and MURDER dogs as you PREFER. Too bad there is no such system.

You’ve got ALL the CASE HISTORY DATA you need to SCIENTIFICALLY PROVE every thing The Amazing Puppy Wizard and Lee are tellin you but YOU CALL IT LIES on accHOWENT of you’re a lying dog abusing mental case and coward. If there were, it would be easily proven by anyone who cared to promote it.

It’s time for the dog training industry and the universities who TEACH "behaviorists" to DEFEND THEIR METHODS against 100% NEAR INSTANT TOTAL SUCCESS as PROVEN by the C-HOWENTLESS NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Student’s REPORTS, after they’ve "TRIED ALL OTHER METHODS and FAILED". "The thinking that got us into this mess will be insufficient to get us out of it." –Albert Einstein – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – —– Original Message —– To: "The Puppy Wizard" Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard, I have, of late, come to recognize your genius and now must applaud your attempts to save animals from painful training procedures. You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent, who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts to alert the world to animal abuse. We are lucky to have you, and more people should come to their senses and support your valuable work. Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit charity to fund your important work? Have you thought about holding a press conference so others can learn of your highly worthwhile and significant work? In closing, my only suggestion is that you try to keep your messages short for most readers may refuse to read a long message even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard. I wish you well in your endeavors. –Marshall Dermer Marshall Dermer/Associate Professor/ Behavior Analysis Specialty/Department of Psychology/University of Wisconsin- Milwaukee/Milwaukee,WI 53201 http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer As stated, it would be easily proven by applying a standard set of criteria

HOWE abHOWET 100% NEARLY INSTANT REHABILITATION of ALL behavior problems in ALL dogs ALL OVER the Whole Wild World? and evaluating the degree to which the criteria is met.

HOWE abHOWET 100% TOTAL NON PHYSICAL CON-TROLL AS REPORTED by those 100% NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students all over the Whole Wild World. You know, the WONS YOU CALL LIARS and FORGERIES by The Amazing Puppy Wizard to MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE A LIAR and DOG ABUSING MENTAL CASE. REMEMBER?  The nice thing is that the standard set of criteria already exists in a multitude of forms when it comes  to evaluating the success of any system in accomplishing a particular behavior by a dog.

HOWE abHOWET 100% NEARLY INSTANT TOTAL NON PHYSICAL CON-TROLL? Will you ACCEPT THAT? And once proved would be quickly embraced by those for whom success is the prevaling goal.

UNLESS it DISCREDITS and PROVES YOU to be a LIAR and DOG ABUSING MENTAL CASE. They you’ll just repeat the same lies and believe them yourself on accHOWENT of THAT’S your HUMAN NATURE, Master Of Deception blankman, the NATURE of a liar and dog abusing coward. And THAT’S HOWE COME you’re a MENTAL CASE. The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME is the perfect synergy of love, pride, desire, self will, greed, ego, fear, hate, arrogance, disbelief, jealousy, embarrassment, embellishment, shame, guilt, anger, aversion, attraction, revulsion, change, permanence, enlightenment, insult, attrition, and conditioning. It’s the perfect fusion of The Word…, in the physical. Dominance trainers believe their system is valid.

They MURDER their BEST dogs.  Positive reinforcement trainers believe THEIRS is.

NO. You mean BRIBERY trainers. You cannot physically train a dog to naturally want to do EVERY THING you ask. Food bribes lower’s the dog’s appreciation for WORKING with his people. And in the past few years some trainers, instead of looking for an underlying theory that works with all dogs, have begun using a "combined" approach,

You mean a BALANCED trainer. See The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s Post "BALANCED TRAINERS." taking a little bit from both camps as a way of accounting for individual differences in dogs.

IOW, they’re NOT GETTIN 100% CONSISTENTLY RELIABLE NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS. That’s on accHOWENT of you CANNOT BRIBE or INTIMIDATE a dog to naturally WANT to do as you LIKE.   The theory behind Natural Dog Training already takes these differences into account, and it always works, with all dogs.*

As does The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method. Belief is nice,

You CANNOT DENY the CASE HISTORY DATA in The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s Archives on Google. but why rely soley on belief when the ability to demonstrate the point is so readily available?

It’s been DONE. You call the DATA LIES on accHOWENT of The Amazing Puppy Wizard has PROVEN you to be a dog abusing PSYCHOPATH. If a person’s training theory is that any dog is equally trainable for the same behavior

The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s 100% NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End dog Training Method Manual Students have BEEN PROVING THAT for FIVE YEARS, ever sincy YOUR FORMER PAL Robert Crim MURDERED HIS DEAD DOG Fritz and LEARNED THE HARD WAY that you’re a lying dog abusing MENTAL CASE: The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ decent people do not post here abHOWETS. There are few, if any, EXXXCEPTIONS to The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s rules of behaviorISM. Robert Crim was The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s foremost antagonist and first R.P.D.B. former Gang Of Thugs Member, in fact, R.P.D.B.’s most enterTraining and highly respected dog abuser, to realize he murdered his best friend Fritz The Wonder Dog only on acc-HOWENT of he was misled by the CONspiracy to defend hurting and murdering dogs in typical, timeless rpdb fashion by the lying dog abusing punk thug cowards and active long term incurable mental cases led by professor marshall "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM ‘NO!’ into its face for five seconds and lock IT in a box for ten minutes CON-templation" dermer of the Department of ANAL-ytic BehaviorISM at UofWI and his second in cyberspace command Master Of Deception blankman of dogplay.CON and the rabid "dogman" aka joey finnochiario aka jackass morrison aka tommy soronson of soronson’s Retriever Puppy Mill and sindy SADIST mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ’s pages at K-9web.CON assisted by the coward ed w of PETLOSS.COIN, and posted this and never returned: Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry. He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and watching him extract his soggy  foot out of his mouth! Out of these MILLIONS, I’ve only seen 2 naive childs come forward and actually believe in his training manual. Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs since I freely admit to having read and, I hope, understood enough of the manual and it’s counterparts by John Fisher and the posts of Marylin Rammell to believe and use it.  This naive child would like to say thank you to both Jerry and Marylin for putting up with a constant barrage of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly adult dog lovers. The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the nagging idea that if people like them had been posting earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he gasped his last gasp. To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog into good behavior.  Naive is believing that people that hide behind fake names are more honest than people that use their real names.  Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have studied and lived by their craft for decades. "Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten level insults for what they are.   Really stupid is believing that people like Jerry Howe and Marylin Rammell are going to just go away because you people act like fools.  Why do you act like fools?  I really have no idea, and I don’t really care. admit to buying and having success with his little black box.

I think I’m going to get one myself for Father’s day and take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and testing.  You would never believe the results, so you’ll never know. Anyone by now that doesn’t see a scam man coming by Jerry’s posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming to him! LOL!

I don’t see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve, eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei."…….right. Terri

Yes it was, and that is sad. Robert, … read more »

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HOWEDY shelly, I hope that same lady reads this…cause I am so tired of all this aggressive, rude, negative behavior.

Yeah. shelly can heelp. She’s good at that. If you do read this please email the group/link to me,

THAT would likely be the ProTrainer’s HOT LIST. That’s where the former rpdb lying dog abusing mental cases have gone to avoid being IDENTIFIED EXXXPOSED and DISCREDITED by The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~  )   You’ll get EXXXPERT advice there from the likes of professora avrama "CHIN CHUCK ABSOLUTELY DON’T MEAN SLAP THE DOG" gingold and famliy dog trainer lt joel walton and booby "don’t let him DO THAT’ maida amongts other lying dog abusing punk thug cowards and active long term incurable MENTAL CASES who are AFRAID to TALK BUSINESS in pubic. I would really appreciate it.

Just look for their link and sign in. Ask a couple questions. Ask abHOWET HOWE much PAIN does it take to make your dog naturally want to do ANY THING you ask. BWEEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAAA!!! i have no idea what other group you’re referring to.

There’s OTHER EXXXCELLENT MODERATED behavior groups, like "behavior sciences". I think it’s a Yahoo group. They got the same same same same EXXXPERTS there that we got here… doin MOORE of the same same, but with a ethological preference for DHOWEBLETALK. as for rudeness in this group,

We wouldn’t wanna be RUDE to noWON. EXXXCEPT HOWER "BEAST FRIENDS", of curse, on accHOWENT of they NEED US to HEELP them: "Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep The Pressure Up," sindy "don’t let the dog SCREAM" mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ’s pages on k9 web. You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY??? "Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I’d Call It A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know Jack Wouldn’t HaveDone It If He Thought Solo Couldn’t Take It. I Still Crate Him Because Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie. You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER? "Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem Quite Harsh And  Cause You To Cringe. This Is A Normal Reaction The First Few  Times It Happens, But You’ll Get Over It."mike duforth, author: "Courteous Canine." You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING is courteHOWES? "I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently as possible. What  does this mean?" Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude. "When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time, spray one squirt directly into the dog’s mouth and walk away. The dog won’t be too thrilled with this but just ignore him and continue your normal behavior." –Mike Dufort author of the zero selling book "Courteous Canines" You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?

Linda wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior: When you compare using sound and praise to solve a problem with using shock collars, hanging, and punishment how can you criticize the use of sound? There’s nothing more to be said, then. You’ve made up your mind. But you’ve impressed me by mentioning that you’re a professor with 30 years of experience. So, can you cite some examples of people recommending "shock collars, hanging, and punishment"? — –Matt.  Rocky’s a Dog.

BWWWAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! lying frosty dahl sez she doesn’t twist: "None of my posts, prior to or subsequent to Jerry Howe’s attacks, encourage anyone to twist ears, beat dogs, confront, intimidate, frighten, or any of the crap he constantly attributes to me. I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A Dog I Do Not Believe There Is A Single Circumstance Ever, Where Slapping A Dog Is Anything But Destructive, I don’t see why anyone would want to choke or beat a dog, or how any trainer could possibly get a good working dog by making them unhapper, fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying frosty dahl. amy lying frosty dahl continues: "On the other extreme, the really hard dogs we have trained require much more frequent and heavy application of pressure (PAIN j.h.) to get the job done, This is continued resistance to your increasing authority, and the job is not done until it is  overcome Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply" BUT NOBODY DOES THAT HERE… "Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar,  even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch" OR ATTACKING HIS ABUSER. "You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance. CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever Ready Right Hand, As it catches on, try using the stick and no ear pinch. When the dog is digging out to beat the stick and seems totally reliable without any ear pinch, you are finished This is continued resistance to your increasing authority, and the job is not done until it is overcome" If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly under the chin, say "No! Hold!" (stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps because the ear is getting tender, or the dog has decided it isn’t worth it)" lying frosty dahl. "Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap," professora gingold.  the only rudeness i’ve seen has come from you.

You mean when BarbnBeau wrote in to say "THANK YOU The Amazing Puppy Wizard"?  i expect most people have already killfiled you

No DHOWET! Of curse, only the lying dog abusing mental cases would KILLFILE someWON for gettin 100% TOTAL SUCCESS NEARLY INSTANTLY and wantin to share the GOOD NEWS. because you keep reposting Jerry’s spewage.

You mean the part that SHOWED BarbnBeau HOWE COME she COULDN’T TRAIN HER DOG using the idiocy that you and your mentally ill pals try to get HOWET callin trainin? Dogs behave better… hmm must be all the positive training and No not negatives …

Yeah. If you look up the POSTED CASE HISTORIES of these lying dog abusing punk thug cowards and active long term incurable MENTAL CASES you’ll SEE they’ve STILL GOT the SAME PROBLEMS they came here with YEARS PRYOR and they still do the SAME SAME to cause the SAME SAME PROBLEMS and they’ll do and say ANY THING to defend their alleged RIGHT to HURT INTIMIDATE and MURDER dogs and try to get HOWET callin THAT, trainin. perhaps we could learn from the dogs we train … now there’s a refreshing thought ..lol

WE DID. When The Amazing Puppy Wizard came here abHOWETS HE was just a other ordinary dog trainer who wanted to share some EXXXRAORDINARY dog trainin INFORMATION with like minded dog lovers who promptly CALLED HIM A LIAR on accHOWENT of NO WON TRAINS ALL DOGS NEARLY INSTANTLY WITHHOWET HURTIN THEM. And so, the conspiracy to hurt intimidate and murder dogs continues. And THAT’S| HOWE COME when new posters post here abHOWETS The Amazing Puppy Wizard lays the doGgamened cards on the table and separates the JOKERS from the deck. i’d like to see someone train a dog in real life without using any kind of negatives,

You mean like HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students all over the Whole Wild World REPORT RIGHT HERE? YOU CALL THEM LIARS you dog abusing mental case. especially no punishment.

BWEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHHAAA!!! You can’t post here abHOWETS nodoGgamenedMOORE. i expect that’d be interesting to watch.

INDEED? You’ve been SEEIN The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students all over the Whole Wild World DOIN THAT for five years NHOWE. YOU CALL THEM LIARS. REMEMBER? "As Sam Corson (Pavlov’s last student) demonstrated for nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving care." George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate, Academy of Behavioral Medicine – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below. I’m glad that you referred negatively to Jerry’s habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWING everything. I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his way of diluting his authority – IME he is a very modest fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very competent at living with dogs. I thought I’d list a series of actions which I found on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about dogs doing this and that, for example: whining, humping, hunching, pacing, self mutilation – paw licking, side sucking, spinning, prolonged barking, barking at shadows, overstimulated barking, fighting, bullying other dogs, compulsive digging, compulsive scratching, compulsive chewing, frantic behavior, chasing light, chasing shadow, stealing food, digging in garbage can, loosing house (toilet) training. inappropriate fearfulness aggression. The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of the intervening time working with animals (including the human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you

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HOWEDY sinofabitch, you miserable lying dog abusing punk thug coward and active long term incurable mental case, Unfortunately, the OP is posting via Google, which doesn’t have KF capabilities –

You mean you can’t HIDE from the PAINFUL WORDS you wrote which The Amazing Puppy Wizard QUOTES to IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE DISCREDIT and EMBARRASS you and your lying dog abusing punk thug coward mental case pals. this group is extremely difficult to read on there,

NO IT AIN’T. Just put in the groups rec.pets.dogs.behavior and look for JERRY’S VERSION and you’ll SEE yourself HURTING dogs and LYING abHOWET IT, as per usual. due to the signal-to-noise ration.

You mean, when your lies are EXXXPOSED and you are DISCREDITED as a dog abusing mental case. LIKE THIS: sinofabitch writes: What I have said- repeatedly – is that he took posts from two different people, took pieces of them out of context, cobbled them together, then added his own words:

"Neatly," and "Smartly." and a fake signature.

"sinofabitch" instead of sionnach. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Which is exactly what he did. The actual quote is misleading when taken out of context, and Jerry’s faked "quote" is downright meaningless. Here’s Jerry’s version   "I Dropped The Leash, Threw My    Right Arm  Over The Lab’s Shoulder,    Grabbed Her Opposite  Foot With My    Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side,    Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into    Her Throat  And Said "GRRRR!" And    Neatly Nipped Her Ear," sinofabitch. Here’s yours;   "I dropped the leash, threw my   right arm over the Lab’s shoulder,   grabbed her opposite foot with my   left hand, rolled her on her side,   leaned on her, said "GRRRR!" and   nipped her ear.   –Sara Sionnach

BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!! That’s INSANE. Ain’t it. "When you get bagged for lying you’re MARKED FOR LIFE," The Puppy Wizard’s DADDY. BWEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!

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Sorry, puppy wizard, your book is no longer available online. I’ve gone to the Web site, and it no longer exists. See for yourself: Gone The requested resource / is no longer available on this server and there is no forwarding address. Please remove all references to this resource.

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HOWEDY dixie sugar, You’re a lying dog abusing mental case with a very sick little doggy you’ve abused: by this author HOWEDY dixie sugar,

The "Puppy Wizard" who is now on my blocked list,

BWEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHAHAA!!! is about the worst smart-ass weirdo I have ever encountered in the newsgroups.

YOUR DOGS ARE DYING FROM STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME on acc- HOWENT of you’re a DOG ABUSER, dixie sugar. DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS. He totally turns me off….

You’re MURDERIN your dogs, dixie sugar:

Thanks Celeste. The hardware cloth is a good idea. Our cyclone fencing is done similar to that but it hadn’t occurred to me to use the same idea in the yard. Would you suggest (for the digging area) taking up the sod and putting sand on top of it or just taking up the sod? The dogs seem to favor an area where it is not too grassy for their excavating. Actually I think the two younger dogs dig for bugs or something. I don’t know whether a sand box would work or not particularly with my 12 yr. old. He’s been digging big time for so long that I wonder if he would go for artificial dirt. LOL Dixie

A Dog Lover’s Lament: "Very recently I lost my companion of almost 12 years to DM, and it was an awful experience for us both." But What HURTS MOORE Is Lookin Like A CHUMP! HOWEDY Dog Lovers, Here’s a UNHAPPY DOG LOVER COMPLAININ that HURTIN and INTIMIDATING DOGS doesn’t CAUSE them to GET SICK and DIE: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 2:12 PM HOWEDY HildesDADDY, To not email me at any address. The Amazing Puppy Wizard hasn’t mailed you at any of your addresses. HE mailed you on HIS FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Forums for the Whole Wild World to see and to HUMILIATE and MOCK you. Clearly and specificly. You’re a COMPLAINER. Clearly in your psychotic thought process you did not understand that. The Amazing Puppy Wizard don’t pander to COMPLAINERS, HildesDADDY. I also have attempted to make it clear to you that your abusive, rude, hateful and clearly sociopathic postings to the groups needs to stop. Yeah. EMBARRASSIN, ain’t it. Obviously you are not getting it. But YOU are. IN FACT, you’re GETTIN IT BOTH WAYS! What is it going to take? You might try BEGGIN? The Amazing Puppy Wizard LOVES it when you BEG. Having your ISP yank you? Don’t you think you’re yankin it pretty good? Having the groups block you? The Amazing Puppy Wizard CHOSE pubic forums for this very reason, you freakin Nazi punk thug coward. You don’t seem to think it is possible Mr. Psycho Guy, but it is. Not in the Whole Wild World, thanks to V.P. Al Gore. THANKS V.P. Al Gore for makin the WWW INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY FREE for WON an all! And I really cannot believe that you would put a picture of yourself, or whomever, You mean The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ )   like that on your website. IT EMBARRASSES YOU, does it? Is the goal to make yourself look and sound like an absolute nutcase? Yeah. That’d make YOU look like a CHUMP. WOULDN’T IT. You my friend are doing an excellent job of that. THANK YOU, HildesDADDY! Scott —–Original Message—– Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 7:02 PM HOWEDY HildesDad, I noticed a number of posts from those with dogs suffering from this. INDEEDY. THAT’S HOWE COME it’s called The Puppy Wizard’s SYNDROME <{) ; ~  )   Very recently I lost my companion of almost 12 years to DM, and it was an awful experience for us both. You got LUCKY. Most of HOWER dog lover’s dogs are DYIN from it by age three. She passed away due to a probable blood clot breaking loose and causing a stroke. Fortunately the other dogs were home with her. Twelve is respectable. While it would be difficult to discuss it all in one post, if anyone would care to I am more than willing to discuss what my vet and I learned during Hilde’s brief battle. Perhaps we can discuss probable CAUSES of DM, rather than TREATMENT. Her tribute is at: http://www.arcane-computing.com/Hilde/ as a PowerPoint show and at: http://www.arcane-computing.com/Hildegard/ as a web page. The Amazing Puppy Wizard doesn’t DO grief. While many will think it absurd You’re entitled. we also had a funeral service for her at the house last weekend, and about 30 people joined us. That’s respectable. A client of mine is a "Funeral Celebrant" and while she usually deals with 2 legged people she was more than willing to take care of my 4 legged girl. Not to S-HOWEND disrespectful but the story goes: a man called the Baptist church and asked if they’d do a funeral for his dog. The minister sez "take IT to the Universalist church, they’ll do anything." So the man asks, "you think they’ll do it for $500.00 bucks?" The minister sez "well you didn’t tell me he was Baptist." -ScottL "As Sam Corson (Pavlov’s last student) demonstrated for nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving care." George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate, Academy of Behavioral Medicine —– Original Message —– Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below. I’m glad that you referred negatively to Jerry’s habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWING everything. I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his way of diluting his authority – IME he is a very modest fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very competent at living with dogs. I thought I’d list a series of actions which I found on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about dogs doing this and that, for example: whining, humping, hunching, pacing, self mutilation – paw licking, side sucking, spinning, prolonged barking, barking at shadows, overstimulated barking, fighting, bullying other dogs, compulsive digging, compulsive scratching, compulsive chewing, frantic behavior, chasing light, chasing shadow, stealing food, digging in garbage can, loosing house (toilet) training. inappropriate fearfulness aggression. The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of the intervening time working with animals (including the human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don’t even see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren’t dog related). You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans. As Sam Corson (Pavlov’s last student) demonstrated for nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving care. George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate, Academy of Behavioral Medicine Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:31 AM How does diagnosis shape treatment? Nearly every week I have a visit from Jerry Howe, who publicizes himself as The Puppy Wizard. Jerry is a master at behavioral modification of dogs. His fundamental bedrock is the work Pavlov’s last student, the late Sam Corson, Ph.D., did at the U of Ohio (at Oxford,O). Sam always pointed out if the dog stopped working for you in the lab, Pavlov and he always took the dog away from the lab, and put him in a loving home and gave him TLC for a couple of months, and then started, very carefully, over again. Jerry believes that reward and constraint focused training is immoral. I’ve watched him in one short session calm impossible dogs, just about to be murdered (oops "put to sleep") because of their "incorrigibly" violent behavior. Sam was one of the first people to apply amphetamine to hyperactivity (he searched the Middle West for hyperactive dogs); but he never lost sight of the fundamental reality that a dog is not a human, but does respond, doggily, to dog love. You might be surprised to go to B. F. Skinner’s "Cumulative Record" and read the essay by Breland and Breland, "The Misbehavior of Organisms". Animals cannot be successfully trained unless the trainer attends to the evolutionary history, the individual’s developmental history, and the environmental niche of the animal being trained. Yep, right there in Skinner’s last and summary book. Even with behavior mod, you must know the animal. <snip Dogs or little boys, you have to know the individual history, and the nature of he disorder. Dr. Von PS if you are interested in dogs, then take a look at Death Producing Ulcers: "Emotional Influences On Health & Behavior" Dr. George Von Hilsheimer Emotional Influences On Behavior Illness is directly related to depression and lack of adjustment, particularly to a new environment (Parens,

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HOWEDY drusefton, Why did the person who calls himself/herself The Puppy Wizard attack me for asking a simple question?

Your dog is NORMAL. You came here to ask lying dog abusing punk thug cowards and active long term incuarble MENTAL CASES HOWE to make your dog FEAR AGGRESSIVE like them other inapupriately unnecessarily surgically mutilated dogs at the park. REMEMBER? And why is he/she touting some book that isn’t even available online anymore?

The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual is published RIGHT HERE in the largest publishing company in the Whole Wild World, the WWW. LOOK IT UP you lazy stupd dog abuser. Thanks for the input, everyone. Yes, I’m keeping a very close eye on Finley to see how he interacts with other dogs. He loved playing with all kinds of dogs at his foster mom’s. And he loves playing with small female dogs. He wants to play with larger male dogs, too,

So IOW, he’s NORMAL. but I’m keeping him away from the dog park

Where the other INAPUPRIATELY UNNECESSARILY SURGICALLY MUTILATED FEAR AGGRESSIVE DOGS try to attack your dog for BEING NORMAL on accHOWENT of you don’t know HOWE to pupperly handle and train your dog. while he’s still intact.

You mean NORMAL.  I wish I could move up the neutering appointment!

To make your dog FEAR AGGRESSIVE like the others. That’s the first available slot.

You’re gonna HURT your dog on accHOWENT of you’re EITHER a dog abusing mental case or you’ve been LIED TO by your veterinarian and the lying dog abusing punk thug cowards who’s own dogs are FEAR AGGRESSIVE and DEATHLY ILL from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS- EASE from being ABUSED by the MENTAL CASES like professor SCRUFF SHAKE dermer and his ilk TEACH US TO BE.  Thanks again for the advice!

BWEEEEEEEEEAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!! I’m getting my dog neutered because it’s the responsible thing to do.

THAT SO? SEZ WHO? Your veterinarian who’ll PROFIT from MUTILATING and DISADVANTAGING your dog and rippin you off for your hard earned dough? Or is that neutering idea a pearl of WIZEDOM you picked up reading the MENTAL CASES with the DEATHLY ILL FEAR AGGRESSIVE dogs who post here abHOWETS? I won’t be breeding him,

Breedin got NUTHIN to do with this. As a RESPONSIBLE DOG LOVER you AIN’T gonna be allHOWEING your dog to RUN LOOSE so there’s NO POSSIBILITY of IT breedin UNLESS your dog RUNS HOWET on you on accHOWENT of you’ve ABUSED IT. Your dog came from the factory in PERFECT condition. Through the marvels of modern dog trainin and BEHAVIORISM as taught by professors SCRUFF SHAKE and his accomplice at UofWI dr plonsky, your dog’s pryor owner has HURT INITIMIDATED and DISPOSED of this dog and IT GOT LUCKY and fell through the cracks of DOG LOVERS like racetrack silly, lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn or tara o. aka tee who’d TEST and MURDER IT accordin to the sue sternberg / uncle matty margolis / apdta protocols and jerk choke IT till IT SHOWES FEAR and then murder IT. LIKE THIS: "I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in one shelter.)  But their ability to set their own schedules and duties causes a great deal of scheduling overhead. And it takes effort and thought to ensure that volunteers get the meaningful experience that they work for. Someone has to be responsible for that Volunteer Program, and it is best done by a non-volunteer." Lynn K. and I don’t want to risk unwanted puppies.

HOWE you gonna manifest puppies if you ain’t got a intact bitch and your dog being RESPONSIBLY OWNED and MANAGED CANNOT RUN FREE to ACCIDENTALLY BREED? UNLESS you’re AFRAID your unneutered dog will RUN HOWET on you on accHOWENT of you abuse IT. You think surgically mutilating your dog will prevent IT from ESCAPING? You think the dog’s imperative to breed will supercede your BOND??? Well, perhaps so, if you jerk and choke and lock IT in a box and shock and spray aversives into ITS face and take IT to "traditional obedience" trainin and mutilate IT. YOUR DOG TRUSTS YOU. YOU’RE FIXIN TO HURT IT. HE’LL KNOW YOU HURT HIM. DOGS AIN’T STUPID. THEY HOLD THEIR ABUSERS RESPONSIBLE. PERHAPS THAT’S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard is CRUEL to LYING DOG ABUSING PUNK THUG COWARS WHO HURT INTIMDIATE and MURDER DOGS, drusef? There are shelters full of animals being euthanized.

Yeah. Those "SHELTERS" are full of dogs being MURDERED by RESPONSIBLE DOG LOVERS like yourself, drusef. Dog lovers who’ve been LIED TO by the EXXXPERTS who HURT INTIMIDATE and MURDER dogs they FEAR HURTING and INTIMIDATING someMOORE. Pet overpopulation is a huge problem.

BWEEEEEEAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!! ONLY FOR THE DOG MURDERERS WHO CAN’T KEEP UP WITH THE NEED TO MURDER DOGS LIKE YOURS.  I do volunteer work with Pets DC,

BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAHAAA!!! THAT SO, PUNK? What’s your QUALIFICATIONS? You can’t even successfully walk your own dog in the park on accHOWENT of you ain’t SURGICALLY MUTILATED IT YET. You think your dog is gonna BENEFIT from this RISKY UNNECESSARY MEDICAL ATROCITY?  which helps HIV/AIDS patients with their pets,

Well ain’t that kindly of you. PERHAPS if your PATIENTS learned HOWE to pupperly handle raise and train their dogs they WOULDN’T NEED YOU to advise them to surgically mutilate jerk choke bribe crate shock spray aversives an MURDER dogs you ain’t got the INTELLECT to HOWEtwit even after The Amazing Puppy Wizard and all HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Method Manual Students ALL OVER The Whole Wild World told you HOWE they done it EZ GENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY and FOR FREE, to boot. Well let’s see drusef. The Amazing Puppy Wizard was just ASKIN your QUALIFICATIONS to "WORK" with dogs in NEED? You may use additional space on the back of this page TO LIST your SPECIFIC QUALIFICATIONS. BWEEEEEEEEEAAAHHAHAHAHAAA!!! and one of our requirements is that pets be neutered.

Oh GOODY! DO TELL US THE BENEFITS of UNNECESSARILY INAPUPRIATELY SURGICALY MUTILATING ALL CRITTERS, drusef? For many reasons it’s healthier for them in the long run.

CITES PLEASE? You AIN’T GOT NONE. There AIN’T NO WAY NO HOWE you can JUSTIFY HURTING INTIMIDATING BRIBING CHOKING SHOCKING CRATING MUTILATING and MURDERING INNOCENT DOGS and trying to get HOWET callin THAT, rescue. YOU’RE A FRAUD.  A LYING DOG ABUSING PUNK THUG COWARD MENTALLY ILL FRAUD. GOT IT? Is there another listserv where I might converse on dog behavior without being attacked online?

If you THINK you’re QUALIFIED to talk abHOWET BEHAVIOR then TALK BUSINESS with The Amazing Puppy Wizard or get the heel HOWETA this business you lying dog abusing mentally ill punk thug coward FRAUD. Just that one reply from The Puppy Wizard has me upset.

Well, when your SENSITIVE FEELINS recover PERHAPS you’ll THINK abHOWET HOWE you’re fixin to ABUSE your own dog and HOWE you’ve LIED TO (probably though no malice of your own, we’ll chalk this up to SHEER IGNORANCE and STUPIDITY of believing the other cowards who TAUGHT YOU to HURT INTIMDIATE and MURDER dogs like HOWE they PREFER), and MAYBE your FEELINS will be overwhelmed by you INTELLECT and PERHAPS you’ll rehabilitate yourself, with a little FREE HEELP from The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~  )   OtherWIZE, HE’LL IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT you and your SHELTER kinda like HOWE HE already DONE, but maybe NOT QUITE SO HOWESPITABLY. Thanks so much for any/all suggestions.

EITHER WIZE UP OR GET THE HEEL HOWETA THIS BUSINESS. BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAAA!!! Best Regards, Dru

I don’t now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she’s not here with us. I really can’t blame anyone here for her loss. I’m the one who ignored your advice. I did it because of how you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the idea that my using a shock collar could have any bearing on Peach not wanting to stay home. Up until I started using it my main concern had been keeping my dogs in their own yard. Once I started using the e-fence… well, then my concern became how to keep them from running off for days on end. I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades. I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now <g A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained, doesn’t chew up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn’t bark all the time. IOW a great companion and friend. Thanks Jerry!

We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring. Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no collars. Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to come back in the yard and would run for days. The last time, Peach didn’t come back home. I used the Wit’s End Training Manual to learn how to train my dog. She is now border trained.  A few minutes each day reinforces her desire to stay in the yard. She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her from chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we walk around the yard. I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the e-fence and its collars.  If you can’t get a regular fence then you need to train your dog. I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep my dog in our yard again. The price was too high:-( ~misty Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry. He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth! Out of these MILLIONS, I’ve only seen 2 naive childs come forward and actually believe in his training manual. Robert Crim writes:

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